Note To The Gun Controllers: You Don’t Get To Know My Dope

BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 1 month ago

Via Uncle, via Joe, and then ultimately to someone with the pseudonym Stonekettle on Twitter (have you noticed how these “we’re coming to take your guns and there’s nothing you can do about it” guys always leave out their real names?):

If we elect a new congress and we pass laws making gun ownership illegal for people like you, and the government comes to take your guns, what will you do?

What will you do? Be specific.

He goes back and forth with a few Molon Labe folks and still presses for details.  Again and again and again.

But here’s the deal, Stonekettle.  I know what you’re doing.  You want people to make threats and then you’ll turn them in to the FBI.  Or you want people to give the details of their plans, and you’ll turn it all over to the FedGov.  You’re just a FedGov troll, and not a very good one at that.

You don’t get to know my tactics, techniques and procedures, or anything about my plans.  You have to make your plans for me in ignorance.

But I do have a question for you, and if you can answer it, I’ll consider throwing you a bone.  Here is the question.

If we elect a new congress and we pass laws making gun ownership illegal for people like me, when anyone comes to take my guns, what will you do?

What will you do? Be specific.

Will you be a coward, sitting to the side and watching as others do your work?  Will you participate?  What will your tactics, techniques and procedures be?

I’m waiting.  Be specific.

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  1. On April 23, 2018 at 12:16 am, Fred said:

    I’ll tell you exactly what I’m going to do. I’m going to win and here’s why:

    “Fighting a war is an immoral act. The only moral way to fight a war is to win. Losing a war because you won’t fight to win is immoral, it’s war for the sake of war. ALL MORAL DECISIONS must be made at the outset. The decision must be made that the only solution before a holy and just God is to win. This requires, of course, an actual credible threat. Then, there are no more morality questions, it’s kill or be killed. This question of “how do we fight them?” is now settled. Now you go about to kill them. You turn your entire nation and all of its resources to the rightly natural task of survival and you kill the enemy. Then you kill them more. You destroy their property and drive them out before you and then you kill them some more and then kill them some more again until the ones left alive submit completely. And if you have to go Old Testament to ensure the perpetuation of your people, then you do it, all moral decisions having been settled prior to the start. You do this because it is the right thing to do for your people and for your nation.
    Losing is the single most immoral thing a people could do. The Geneva conventions and the UN rules of engagement are designed to prevent a winner. They were created to ensure the perpetuation of the post WWII power structure. This is why [America loses], it’s by design. And it’s unnatural and immoral.
    Giving a man what amounts to an eighth grade education, a rifle, and an inch thick rule book of field morality riddles and then expecting him to win is WRONG, it’s unjust. It’s harmful to the man and to our nation. The blood of every soldier’s suicide is on the creators of this heinous crime. May this scam’s creators and perpetrators burn in hell forever.
    Small wars, slow wars, fourth gen wars, slowly escalating wars, restrictive wars, wars on drugs, wars on poverty, wars on obesity, and the coming war on guns are all bogus. They are for monetary profit and consolidation of power.”

    You can kill all the gun owners you want. You can imprison all the gun owners you want. You can kill 70 million of us. That’ll show us! You’re a fucking idiot. You will still lose. It’s what you do. It’s who you are. You’ve killed 60 million babies. You worship the god expediency. You can’t win shit! God won’t let you. What are you going to do, shoot us? With each death you will be promoting what you claim to abhor. You are as a little child crying out for somebody ELSE to keep you safe. You are owned by the devil. You are hated. You are tormented. You’ve tied your soldiers hands and loosed your police against yourselves. You cry alone at night for something better you know not what. Your business model is to take other peoples money and kill them if they don’t like it. You are depravity itself. You are alone, isolated, helpless, neutered, afraid of the dark, afraid of nature and the natural, scared of the woods, dirt is yucky. You are hopeless. You claim evolution and natural selection but you deny it by way of your own actions. You are destroyed by your own creations. The Natural Law screams from within you that you should try and make things right but you pervert it all by doing the very things you claim to be against. This is satan’s deceit and you are just that stupid to believe it. You can’t win. You don’t even understand the most basic elements of right of wrong. You are a loser. You are a failure. You think germs come from outside and that your house is clean. You are your neighbor’s inadequacy. You are the one who jokes about going to hell while in the back of your mind knowing that it’s true. Sin is your master, your lover, your sodomy. You’re not better than your neighbor. You owe more than $250,000 to people you don’t even know yet you hate them for it? They own you. You are their slave. With all seriousness I tell you that your masters very likely have demons in them. You are blinded and you will lose the coming war on guns. You have no idea what I’m even writing about here yet I know everything that’s in your heart of hearts, because I am you, well, was you. This is one long, disjointed, semi coherent paragraph, huh? It’s you. This is what you look like. You have a retarded, stunted understanding of this planet. Well, its owner has NO MERCY FOR THE WICKED, yet in Him is the only true mercy that will ever be found. The blood of gun owners can’t save you. Only the blood of Christ can.

  2. On April 23, 2018 at 2:10 am, skybill said:

    Hi Herschel,
    WOW!! Ol’ FRED really laid down a track!! Myself, thinkin’ about the situation, ‘only have a few thoughts. Well, when the excrement hits the rotating air circulator I note a couple of scenarios “for starters… but there are more I have…” First, two words “You know well,” “Phil Gordon”.. the other two words are “Charlie Kintard.” You know the drill, you know what happened….You knew Mike… (so did I and I feel very fortunate to have met with him before his demise) I’ll just leave you with that!! If ya’ wanna’ say sumpthin’ above is my email…. “skybill”

  3. On April 23, 2018 at 2:14 am, bogbeagle said:

    Pretty sure that Stonekettle is either career-military or career-LEO … besides being career-gun-grabber.

  4. On April 23, 2018 at 5:57 am, HoundOfDoom said:

    Well put Fred. your semi coherency is better than most people after 2 cops of coffee.

  5. On April 23, 2018 at 6:14 am, WiscoDave said:

    A very good friend of mine, a small business owner, had several marchers in a previous gun banning march stop in his shop to refresh themselves and celebrate. He engaged them in conversation regarding the march and their thoughts in what is to follow. They said total confiscation, nothing less. He asked what would be done with those that didn’t comply. They said “We’ll kill them.” He brought up that those that didn’t comply will have a say in that process. They paused for a moment and replied that they were “ just kidding.”

  6. On April 23, 2018 at 7:53 am, Gryphon said:

    It’s like being in some kind of Bizzaro World listening to what these people Say
    “We’ll Take Your Guns and Kill You if You Resist.” As If none of them will become ‘Targets’.

    Rwanda x Yugoslavia, Here We Come…

  7. On April 23, 2018 at 9:05 am, June J said:

    The left believes that because the right has taken everything that has been shoved down their throats so far without bloodshed, that outlawing private ownership of firearms will yield the same results.

    They are somewhat correct, millions of people will willingly turn in their guns to remain, temporarily, in the good graces of their leftist masters.

    The trouble starts when the remaining firearms have to be taken by force.

  8. On April 23, 2018 at 9:40 am, JSW said:

    Stonekettle asks, “If we elect a new congress and we pass laws making gun ownership illegal for people like you, and the government comes to take your guns, what will you do?
    What will you do? Be specific.”

    Well, gee, Stonekettle– why don’t you come to take them and see for yourself what will happen?

  9. On April 23, 2018 at 9:50 am, Herschel Smith said:


    Right in the spirit of the post. Find out by doing, not asking. Show some courage, Stonekettle, don’t be a coward.

  10. On April 23, 2018 at 10:09 am, DWEEZIL THE WEASEL said:

    Excellent comment by Fred. The only thing I can add is the famous quote by Stonewall Jackson: “Duty is ours. The consequences are God’s.”

  11. On April 23, 2018 at 10:09 am, revjen45 said:

    And besides, if I told you it wouldn’t a surprise!

  12. On April 23, 2018 at 10:32 am, Shawn said:

    I thank God every day that we have people like you, Herschel, and your readers and respondents.
    The vector we are on as a nation is very bad. Try as we may, will not be righted. It’s difficult to keep moral on even keel.
    I’m not articulate in my conversations as most of you are. And I want to take the opportunity to thank you all for your an wavering balance. It truly is inspiring.
    I will not likely ever meet any one of you, so I say Thank You for your service now while I am able.
    I mean the service you are in now. This is what makes me LUCKY to call myself an American.
    Special thanks to Fred.
    God bless you all. See you at the finish line.

  13. On April 23, 2018 at 11:29 am, Nohbody said:

    For the record, “Stonekettle” is Jim Wright, a sci-fi author who was a USN CWO.

    He was part of the 2015 Hugo Awards debacle, where the leftists decided to drop the mask and made it clear that they considered the Hugos their own personal fiefdom, no longer going to pretend that the awards were supposed to be for all of science fiction fandom (vice a leftist mutual back-slapping society where they pretend that they’re actually relevant to anyone but themselves).

  14. On April 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm, Herschel Smith said:

    A USN CWO. Hahahahahaha … And he’s coming to take guns away?

  15. On April 23, 2018 at 6:26 pm, Pat Hines said:


    I looked him up under “Jim Wright” and found nothing. Does he write under another pseudonym?

  16. On April 23, 2018 at 8:16 pm, bikermailman said:

    Pat, I have no idea about Stonekettle, but it sounds like Nohbody is describing John C Wright ( I can quibble about some of his Catholic views, but he’s a firebrand. Of the generally good sort.

  17. On April 24, 2018 at 12:56 pm, Grandpa said:

    My question for ‘Stonekettle’ would be this: supposed Congress passed a law saying “you must own a firearm, and be proficient in its use; as we are disbanding local law enforcement; and making each citizen responsible for keeping the peace.” And etc., along those lines. Then, cupcake, what would be YOUR course of action?

  18. On April 24, 2018 at 3:49 pm, LarryArnold said:

    [If we elect a new congress and we pass laws making gun ownership illegal for people like you, and the government comes to take your guns, what will you do?]

    We’re the ones that read history. Your kind has tried that before, giving power to the government and turning it loose to purge its enemies.

    Inevitably, every time, once they are so empowered, the armed servants of the government have at first ignored the peasants, rednecks, peons, or whatever the local equivalent has been. They have turned away from “people like me,” who you imagine are your enemies.

    The first ones the new, all-powerful, armed minions of government, who you have empowered, have relocated to the re-education camps, the first ones they have lined up against the wall and shot or gassed or hacked or burned or beaten to death, the first people they have wrested from their communities and from their homes and from their families, have been the intellectuals who put them in power and who are under the illusion that they are still in control.

    You represent the voters who could vote them out of office, but who are disarmed so you can easily be eliminated. So, they do so.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Robespierre’s Law: Power you give government to do unto others will be used to do unto you.

    [What will you do? Be specific.]

    We’ll be the ones that are laughing as your look of utter surprise predictably turns to complete despair. Again.

    Then we’ll roll up our sleeves and clean up your mess.

  19. On April 24, 2018 at 7:17 pm, Bob Butler (ICE) said:

    Oh….,and Stonekettle….while you are wondering what we’re going to do, well we’ve decided to include your FAMILY in our responses too. I mean what the Hell do we have to lose at that point. If it is gong to be painful, then you get to share in it…fully!

  20. On April 24, 2018 at 8:12 pm, Nohbody said:

    No, not John C Wright.

    After some further digging, I couldn’t find any convenient links about Jim Wright other than the Stonekettle thing (not helped any by other people going by “Jim Wright” in unrelated categories, like f’rex the former Speaker of the House in the US Congress), but that is him, and he was the designer of the “asterisk” that was given out at the 2015 Hugos.

    His FB account, where he goes all leftardish:

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