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A citizen’s phone call to Connecticut state police about a letter ordering gun owners to dispose of their unregistered so-called “assault” weapons and standard-capacity magazines is sending shockwaves through the national gun-rights community after being recorded and posted online.
The heated phone conversation over the document took place amid rapidly escalating tensions between gun owners and state authorities determined to impose more gun control on Connecticut residents.
In the recording, state police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance – who did not know he was being recorded and told WND it was illegal to do so – can be heard telling the woman that anyone who refuses to dispose of their newly banned firearms in accordance with official instructions could face felony arrest.
Analysts believe the vast majority of Connecticut gun owners failed to comply with the controversial new law, with some suggesting that massive statewide civil disobedience may be at work.
Some accounts estimate that as many as 100,000 people or more could be in violation of the statute.
The woman on the call, who goes by the name Guerrilla girl Ashley and asked WND not to publish her last name, told Vance that her husband had received a letter from state authorities after failing to register his firearm by the statutory deadline.
The instructions say gun owners have the options of selling the weapon to a dealer, rendering it permanently inoperable, removing it from the state or surrendering it to law enforcement.
“My question is this: What happens if my husband decides not to do this?” Ashley asks the officer, who responds by suggesting that she contact an attorney but that his understanding is that non-compliance is a felony.
“What will happen, then, if my husband refuses? Will you come to our home to arrest him?” she asks again.
Sounding calm and composed, Lt. Vance explains that “we haven’t crossed that bridge just yet.” He says her husband could be subject to arrest and that he did not have a “good answer” to the question.
In either case, Vance emphasizes that he would not personally be visiting gun owners, but lower-ranking officers might.
Ashley suggests that this was a “slippery slope”” that could potentially put the police in harm’s way if they go door to door in search of unregistered firearms and gun owners.
“We’re in harm’s way every day,” Vance responded without addressing the prospect of door-to-door gun confiscation.
The caller then asks if the officer took an oath to the Constitution.
“Did I take an oath to the Constitution?” responds Vance, who earned national notoriety in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. “What bearing does that have on this conversation?”
Ashley goes on to argue that enforcing unconstitutional laws, which she said are all “null and void,” would be a violation of his oath. He responded by saying that until the law was struck down by the courts, it was a “lawful law” that would be enforced.
“We’re not the Gestapo, and I don’t want the inference of that,” Vance says. “Your attorney can give you advice.”
The officer also recommends contacting state legislators to express any concerns about the law.
“How we’re going to go about the mechanism of enforcing this law, that’s still being determined,” Vance continues.
“I don’t want to talk about the Constitution, Ma’am, at all, at all,” he adds before Ashley suggests that officials were threatening families into compliance with an unconstitutional statute.
“It sounds like you’re anti-American, it sounds like you’re anti-law,” Vance says, clearly becoming frustrated with the caller, who insists she is “pro-American.”
Eventually, with both call participants getting riled, Ashley lashes out.
“You’re going to speak to me this way, somebody that pays your salary?” she asks. “You’re a servant, you serve me. … You can refuse to follow unlawful orders!”
“Just remember, you’re the servant, we’re the masters, OK?” she adds.
Vance responds by saying: “I’m the master, Ma’am, I’m the master.”
You should listen to me Mr. Vance. As I told you, “God is not pleased with the men and women of Connecticut who voted in favor this this law. God hates totalitarians of all stripes, all persuasions, in every form and manifestation and at all times in history. Notice that I didn’t say He hates totalitarianism but loves totalitarians. He does not. He hates them both. Satan is a totalitarian.”
Are you trying to be like Satan, Mr. Vance? It sure seems that way.