Comment Of The Week
BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 3 months ago
“So there you are, in your easy chair, watching an episode of law and order, and an army of cops come up your road and demand you come to the door. Last week, I would’ve gone to the door and asked, “what’s up, can I help you,” and possibly gotten slain.
This week, and from now on, I’m getting everyone with me (kids), on the floor or into the basement. I’m getting armed and I’m calling 911 and demanding to talk to the chief or better yet the ranking officer on the ground outside my home. I’m also calling my neighbors (in my case…few) to have them head my way to start rolling cell video with full acknowledgement by police who are present to muddy things up a bit.
It’s has become plain to me that our homes need to be hardened with shooting positions and safe egress points and perhaps, secret hiding spaces. Strategies need to be developed and practiced with family and like minded neighbors.
We are now living in and facing a lethal police state.”
On January 1, 2018 at 10:20 pm, Fred said:
Every day it crosses my mind; ‘what do I do if the police come to the door.’
No, it’s not the opening line of a novel set in cold war era East Germany, it’s what I’m actually thinking.
On January 2, 2018 at 2:15 am, Dan said:
I’m not sure if in the Wichita travesty the victim even knew the cops were stacked up outside waiting to shed blood. I think he heard something and was going outside to investigate….and was CLOSING THE DAMN DOOR rather than ‘reaching for his waistband’ when Sgt. Tackleberry ventilated him.
On January 2, 2018 at 9:58 am, Randolph Scott said:
I have the same thoughts as Fred and believe we all should be doing as The Alaskan describes for ‘hardening our homes’. I have thought of several ways to harden the entrance to my home and have been planning for an egress as well.
Citizens, prepare to defend yourselves and your family for the time is almost upon all of us.
On January 2, 2018 at 11:10 am, Ned said:
It’s truly unfortunate that TheAlaskan’s comment so accurately portrays so many people’s thoughts on the subject.
So who is responsible for this change in perception?
On January 2, 2018 at 11:28 am, Herschel Smith said:
Good rhetorical question Ned, and thanks for teeing the ball up on this. The police are responsible for this change in attitude, lock, stock and barrel. Their own attitudes and tactics have led us to where we are.
On January 2, 2018 at 11:40 am, Fred said:
I don’t know, Herschel. While each of the po-po is solely responsible for their own actions there has been a shift in attitude and people want to be kept safe instead of being left free. The police/gov are simply doing what any good controller would do, making us safe at gunpoint. If the people didn’t want or tolerate it, this would not be happening.
If the people demand a king, God, as He has done before, might just give them one.
On January 2, 2018 at 11:56 am, Herschel Smith said:
Yes, of course you’re right Fred. There are multiple causes of this awful state of affairs, including the choice of “safety” over liberty, in which case they’ll have neither.
On January 2, 2018 at 12:10 pm, Papa said:
Fred,
Is it perhaps getting worse here than the former East Germany, concerning police response to calls and traffic stops?
On January 2, 2018 at 12:55 pm, Pat Hines said:
I live outside the jurisdiction of all police agencies save the county sheriff and the state police agency which is very limited in what it can do.
That does not mean I’m safe from an incursion from the sheriff.
My property is configured in a way that makes a massive assault difficult. My driveway is over 800 feet long, not straight, downhill then uphill, with several choke points along its path.
There are additional things I’ve considered, I won’t list them here. What’s more important is the fact that I must consider them, and enhance the difficulty of law enforcement coming to my door unimpeded.
I can’t conceive of anything that would make me consider living in a housing development, or anyplace that puts me close enough to a street or road for cops to operate from that road while behind cover.
On January 2, 2018 at 1:24 pm, moe mensale said:
I agree with TheAlaskan’s comment except for one thing. We’re looking at it from the wrong perspective. I’m not about to turn my home into a static defense. All that does it turn it into a monument to the dead people who used to live there. Eg, the Branch Davidians. You can’t get enough people in and around your home to outnumber the cops if they really want you. So hopefully, you can come out of their little visit intact if you use your God given wisdom.
If this state of affairs remains intolerable or even gets worse, we should be thinking and acting offensively, not defensively. You may not want to admit it but you know it’s the truth. After all, everyone goes home after work, don’t they? Of course they do.
On January 2, 2018 at 5:20 pm, June said:
“So who is responsible for this change in perception?”
I lay part of the responsibility at the feet of the previous administration in Swampington DC who stoked the flames of the war on police. Then more responsibility goes to the GW Bush and other previous administrations for supplying military equipment to police agencies everywhere. Responsibility then lies on the political and law enforcement leadership of the cities where they have advocated and allowed their police departments to be trained in shooting first and going home safely. Lastly, responsibility lies with every single person who supports the police no matter what they do and never demands accountability.
On January 2, 2018 at 7:48 pm, Scott in Phx said:
The first shooting of this kind that I remember was that of Donald Scott,
that was in 1992. I read about it in the opinion pages of the WSJ. No, it wasn’t exactly like this one, but it was still murder by cop.
No doubt there are previous examples.
So this has been going on a long time.
The point to remember is that neither side (Reps or Dems) cares about it,
and what my be even worse,
there are a LOT of people ostensibly on “our side” (“conservative, or worse gun-owners),
who worship the cops and will justify even this shooting because the poor man didn’t jump high enough when the cop said “frog”.
On January 2, 2018 at 7:57 pm, TheOtherGeorge said:
” I’m getting armed and I’m calling 911 and demanding to talk to the chief or better yet the ranking officer on the ground outside my home.”
– Well the part about Alaskan’s plan demanding to talk to the “ranking officer on the ground” sounds good, but I for one am not so sure about the “being armed” part. Observation of these police home invasions in the past shows that they are itching to shoot you in any case and seeing you armed is just the excuse that they need.
In the area where I live swat team raids are orchestrated by county authority and draw cops for a team from several municipalities’ police forces. In other words, the cops that might show up at a neighborhood home here at 3 AM to stage a raid might be drawn from the police forces from several disparate townships. Trying to find out who is running the circus breaking down your door at 3 AM might prove to be problematic.
While I am fantasizing what I might do if confronted with this situation, I am thinking back to 21 years ago when I had this house built and also thinking about the mental institution that I worked at years ago. What is the connection between them? Well, if I had had the money to spend back then when I had this house built and assuming I could see into the future to today’s police brutality problems, I would have incorporated a feature into my house plans that mental institutions all had in common.
Underground tunnels. The old institutions had tunnels that connected the various buildings to one another so that patients could be funneled from one building to another without risk of losing them (from running away) or exposing them to inclement weather.
Yes, a tunnel out of the basement through the back yard to a shed or barn making for a kind of insurance plan against being shot by cop at 3 or 4 AM a real possibility. Yeah; go ahead and laugh. But we can all fantasize, can’t we?
On January 2, 2018 at 9:13 pm, Mr. Gray said:
I remain a firm supporter of Law Enforcement.
How many thousands of dangerous situations did our good, faithful officers handle correctly without any news stories, while one knucklehead marred the reputation of all Law Enforcement?
If they show up at my door, I’ll open it and say, “How may I help you, officer? Would you or any of your men care for some fresh coffee?”