So Why Does DHS Need 1.6 Billion Rounds Of Handgun Ammunition?
BY Herschel Smith
11 years, 3 months ago
From Market Daily News:
Paul Joseph Watson: While the Obama administration sets out to eviscerate the gun rights of American citizens in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, earlier this week it was announced that the Department of Homeland Security has awarded a company a contract worth over $45,000 dollars to provide the DHS with 200,000 more rounds of bullets.
This new purchase adds to the staggering figure of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition already secured by the DHS over the last 9 months alone.
A solicitation originally posted on the FedBizOpps.gov website on December 17 on behalf of the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center advertised the need for 200 cases of 13–40 Cal, 180 Grain, Jacketed Hollow Point bullets, with each case containing 1000 rounds, to be delivered almost immediately as soon as the contract is awarded.
So I’m just asking. And don’t tell me that the DHS needs all of this ammunition for training. You do the math. Assume (as an enveloping case) that the DHS consists of 15,000 agents who need yearly qualification. Divide 1.6 billion by 15,000, and you get more than 100,000 rounds of handgun ammunition per agent.
If each qualifying agent shot 1000 rounds per day, he could practice for 100 days at that rate before needing more ammunition. This shooting rate is something nearing equivalence with Marine infantry and Army special forces doing pre-deployment workups for combat.
You do the math.
On January 6, 2013 at 9:14 pm, JeffC said:
just accelerated govt spending for the election … the 1.6 billion rounds would cost over 500 million …
On January 6, 2013 at 10:21 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Doesn’t make sense. They could have thrown the money away towards a “Green” company.
No, this is one more in a long series of purchases of the same thing.
On January 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm, Jean said:
That is more rounds than a pre 9-11 infantry division would use in a year.
On January 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Jean,
Not to mention the fact that no one can put that many rounds through a weapon without needing – at the very least – a new barrel, new guide rod and new spring. So you ditch the old weapon and buy new ones instead.
On January 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm, Jean said:
Well they are probably diverting the rounds to the black flag freedom fighters in the Middle East.
On January 8, 2013 at 9:03 pm, jj said:
^ Interesting angle…
On January 10, 2013 at 10:13 am, John Cartwright said:
There are 200,000 armed agents in DHS, not 15,000 and the rounds are to be delivered over the next five years, not all at once. It works out to about 40 rounds per agent per week over five years.
On January 10, 2013 at 10:27 am, Herschel Smith said:
“There are 200,000 armed agents in DHS, not 15,000 …”
Prove it.
On January 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm, Jean said:
That is about 11 divisions worh of DHS agents, I feel very safe now. DHS has about 200K employees, that includes clerks and spoons. Most are support and admin types.
On January 12, 2013 at 2:38 pm, Oliver said:
Check the timeline. DHS started buying up ammo well in advance of Aurora and Sandy Hook. Did they have a crystal ball? I don’t think so.
On January 12, 2013 at 2:47 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Oliver,
I never said anything about the DHS purchasing ammunition prior to or after Sandy Hook, or the Colorado event either. They have been doing this for a while. I never said differently. Chrystal ball has nothing to do with it. It’s a world view, an overarching plan, a mission, that has them purchasing so many rounds of ammunition. Now. Riddle me this. What’s that mission?
On February 5, 2013 at 1:54 pm, Donald Sensing said:
The Left here has long theorized that since they will not be able actually to eliminate firearms from America then the way to achieve gun control is to control ammunition. What this administration seems to be doing is buying ammunition not for any legitimate government need, but to simply reduce availability and increase costs for purchasing ammo by ordinary Americans.
On February 5, 2013 at 1:56 pm, Herschel Smith said:
And you may be right, Donald. That’s one theory.
On February 5, 2013 at 7:49 pm, david5300 said:
I can’t wait for the yard sale, our government has the habbit of buying at full price then selling it off for pennies on the dollar
On February 23, 2013 at 4:56 pm, Gamingtech777 said:
Lots of good comments but the most outstanding and glaring theory is DHS has figured out there may be a full collapse of the Gov’t. Has anyone thought about this? Just a theory!! 1.6 billion rounds equates to 5 rounds per each citizen in this country. Think about it!!!
On March 25, 2013 at 12:26 pm, Darkwater said:
DHS (& Social Security plus the other alphabet agencies) are passing this off as ‘business as usual’.
An easy way to clear that up would be to have them pony up their aquisition plans for ammo (and armored vehicles) since 1990 so that we can do a simple ‘compare & contrast’.
That should clear it right up. And how long do you think it will take them to respond?
On March 25, 2013 at 12:48 pm, Darkwater said:
The New American (not what one would call an objective source) cites a Marsha Catron, spokesperson (spokeshuman?, spokesentity? – whichever is PC today) for DHS, as saying that DHS has over 100,000 armed agents and officers, not including the Coast Guard, which procures its ammo through DoD contracts.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/14891-congress-seeks-answers-on-huge-homeland-security-ammo-contracts
On March 29, 2013 at 2:46 pm, bubba said:
I’ll take your 100,000 agents and raise you 12,000,000 armed and pissed off citizens and call your bluff.