WWII Pacific Theater
BY Herschel SmithZeroGov makes the following points at Gab.
It’s the anniversary of Pearl Harbor and I remain sure that Comrade-President RedDR knew the Japanese plans and desperately needed to get into the conflict over the objections of a population that wisely was choosing to sit on the sidelines as the world went to war.
I am further convinced that Hitler and Stalin knew each other’s intentions months before 22 June 1941 when Hitler would start to lose the war strategically with Operation Barbarossa. Stalin could not survive a two front war with Germany in the West and Japan in the East; he had to get the US to contest Japan in the Pacific, hence the many espionage and “useful idiot” operations in the US to shape conditions for the conflict. The 1930s was the high point for American communism and Stalin’s agents had penetrated all the way to the Offal Office to include Harry Lloyd Hopkins (one of Roosevelt’s closest confidantes [his “co-president”] & Soviet code name: “Agent 19”) and Harry Dexter White (Soviet code name: “Jurist”), among others.
Alger Hiss’ wartime KGB controller [Ishhak] Akhmerov “identified the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States,” the book, “American Betrayal” by Diana West, says, ”as Harry Hopkins.”
You will note that all post-WWI construction capital ships were not in Pearl harbor on the morning of 7 December 1941.
It may not have been a popular opinion during the life of my one-time seminary professor, Dr. C. Gregg Singer, but he was convinced that the Pacific theater of the war was a totally unnecessary and wasteful mistake, and whatever differences we had with Japan could have been solved peacefully. Furthermore, he was convinced that the embargo was the catalyst for the attack on Pearl Harbor.
And it should come as no surprise that FDR was eager to assist Stalin. He was always an admirer of Stalin, ceded way too much in the post-WWII order to the communists, and did so in spite of the objections of Churchill.
In retrospect, it would have been a much better outcome for Japan to have handled China before they owned most of the world. Even now, I expect [and hope] that Japan amends its constitution to allow a more robust military. They’re going to need it against China.
What nobody will discuss is how the majority of the US backed Germany in spirit. But, the press was run, even then, by Jew commies, who backed Stalin. They gladly did his propaganda bidding to turn public opinion. But, I’m not allowed to talk about that and neither are you so we won’t. We’re also not allowed to talk about how the Jews got a country in the ME in return so mum’s the word.
My father and most of my Uncles on his side were WWII veterans. My dad served on a destroyer in the pacific. He had the same opinion. He always said that FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked well in advance of what we have been told.
A study I did over 50 years ago laid a solid foundation for the premise that FDR manipulated the Japanese to commit the first step.
We had the Purple machine which deciphered the Japanese code. The furthest west that one of those machines was placed was Hawaii. None of the American installations further west had one. FDR wanted in the war for several reasons but did not want to be seen as the aggressor.
Here’s a link to an excellent book, Day of Deceit, that makes a strong case that Japan was intentionally provoked by FDR into attacking Pearl Harbor.
https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=V4taS&pf_rd_p=29505bbf-38bd-47ef-8224-a5dd0cda2bae&pf_rd_r=WYT44PPQM3Z6X26W8NMH&pd_rd_r=70b6e417-ded7-48c6-80af-89fbf14d68a7&pd_rd_wg=NIk8p&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m
“In Day of Deceit, Robert Stinnett delivers the definitive final chapter on America’s greatest secret and our worst military disaster.”
“Drawing on twenty years of research and access to scores of previously classified documents, Stinnett proves that Pearl Harbor was not an accident, a mere failure of American intelligence, or a brilliant Japanese military coup. By showing that ample warning of the attack was on FDR’s desk and, furthermore, that a plan to push Japan into war was initiated at the highest levels of the U.S. government, he ends up profoundly altering our understanding of one of the most significant events in American history.”
Goes further back. We should never got involved in WW1. Or done any trade with either side. A lot of our problems go back to so called foreign adventures in South America,Cuba, Philippines and China.
The whole asian mess and a great deal more from 1945 onwards could have been avoided. No Red China, no Korean and Vietnam police actions, no Cold War. Hundreds of millions of lives, untold wealth, and the destruction of our culture and society. No 9/11, GWOT or covidiocy either.
https://www.dcdave.com/article5/110530.htm
Re: “It may not have been a popular opinion during the life of my one-time seminary professor, Dr. C. Gregg Singer, but he was convinced that the Pacific theater of the war was a totally unnecessary and wasteful mistake, and whatever differences we had with Japan could have been solved peacefully. Furthermore, he was convinced that the embargo was the catalyst for the attack on Pearl Harbor.” There is no need for “conspiracy theories” regarding the attack upon Pearl Harbor, or the fact that President Roosevelt and his senior advisors knew that war with Japan was coming in the days, months and even years prior to the attack. It is a matter of historical record that relations between the two nations had been deteriorating for many years – at first slowly and imperceptibly – and then more-rapidly and obviously as December 1941 approached. Although relations between the two nations were somewhat normal and cordial in the decades prior to the war – Japan had been on the Allied side during WWI in fact – there were also many sources of tension, disagreement and ultimately anger and alienation. It is not possible to understand the Great Pacific War, as the Japanese call WWII in the Pacific and China-Burma-India theaters – without understanding Japan herself since the Meiji Restoration of 1868. Japan had been, prior to her “opening” by the U.S. and the West in 1853, a medieval and largely feudal society. In the span of a remarkably short period of three decades from 1870 forward, she transformed herself into a modern, first-world industrial & technological power. As a feat of rapid modernization, it was almost unprecedented in history up to that time. It was a stupendous achievement, really, one not fully-appreciated in the West at the time. Japan’s “coming out party,” geopolitically-speaking was her stunning victory in the Russo-Japanese War of 1905, whose culmination saw the great Admiral Heihachiro Togo – the Japanese “Horatio Nelson” – soundly defeat the naval forces of Imperial Russia at the Battle of Tsushima. Having successfully modernized, Japan wanted to become a world power, a great imperial power – in emulation of the already-established powers such as Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy and the United States. Seeing the extent of the imperial possessions and colonies of these various nations in Africa, Asia and elsewhere, Japan sought to emulate their example. Japan had already intervened in Korea by 1890, and formally occupied the peninsula from 1910 until the end of the Second World War in 1945. She also pushed into mainland China as early as the 1910s and 1920s, exploiting the internal unrest then occurring in that nation. And like the European imperial powers and the U.S., Japan had won the right to station her troops on Chinese soil in the aftermath of the Boxer Rebellion of 1900, whose treaty peace terms had imposed these terms on her militarily-defeated empress. So, for forty years or so, all of the nations maintained military forces inside China. This was… Read more »
@ George
Re: “We had the Purple machine which deciphered the Japanese code. The furthest west that one of those machines was placed was Hawaii. None of the American installations further west had one.”
Do you see that as significant? I’m not sure that I do, but perhaps you have evidence that changes the picture.
The naval code-breaking establishment was headquartered in Hawaii, which had been made into our Pacific redoubt. It is standard intelligence practice that no intelligence officer and/or his codes, equipment, ciphers, etc. is to be placed or is to place himself in a position where he can be captured by the enemy. The breaking of the Japanese naval and diplomatic codes was then one of the most-guarded secrets of the war, and it makes sense that the armed services would go to extraordinary lengths to protect that secret.
Our other big base of operations was in the Philippines, but since virtually everyone in the U.S. intelligence community at the time believed that is where any Japanese attack would fall, they obviously weren’t going to risk it there. Wake, Midway, etc. were not significant-enough to merit risking the secret, either.
And when the Magic/Purple encryption-decryption system was finally put into place, it was limited to fewer than a hundred people, and only in places which were secure or relatively secure from Japanese invasion. And you didn’t get access to Magic intel unless someone very senior signed off on it.
@ Herschel
Re: “Even now, I expect [and hope] that Japan amends its constitution to allow a more robust military. They’re going to need it against China.”
The Japanese have been concerned for some time now about the resurgence of the People’s Republic of China. Quite naturally, since they lie in such close proximity to the Asian mainland. And also, because memories are rather long in that part of the world.
For some years now, going back more than a decade, Japanese leaders have debated whether or not to renounce all or part of her post-war constitution, which prohibits rearming of the Japanese military except for strictly defensive purposes. Very quietly and discreetly, Japan has rearmed herself – and this has been done with the tacit approval of the U.S. Japan has also participated in a greater number of joint military training exercises with the U.S. and her other allies in the region.
The Japanese are a formidable opponent, and Beijing knows it. Consequently, Tokyo is an important check upon Beijing’s ambitions and bellicosity.
The million-dollar question remains: Do the Japanese have the atomic bomb? Either one or more of their own design, or purchased from the U.S.? Although they would be very unlikely to admit to such for public attribution, I believe the answer to be in the affirmative. Or, if they do not have them, they have the means and ability to manufacture them quickly. Including fissile material.
And it should come as no surprise that FDR was eager to assist Stalin. He was always an admirer of Stalin, ceded way too much in the post-WWII order to the communists, and did so in spite of the objections of Churchill.
FDR did not survive WWll.
From some acquaintances that once upon a time worked for some Beltway Bandits, i.e “Think Tanks”, the consensus is that Japan is only a few turns of a screwdriver away from having a decent little collection of nuclear and thermonuclear toys. Not literal screwdrivers, of course, but that it would take very little time to get the devices operational.
I’ve done some military simulations on the side, and did one last year where Japan intervenes when Taiwan gets invaded. China drops a few nukes on Japan, and then, all hell breaks loose in China. At the end of the game, China no longer had an overpopulation problem, and their major cities and ports all glowed in even daylight.
Regarding Georgiaboy’s question, I suspect(but have no evidence) that Japan has developed their own devices, with a little help from US and British experts. We had Japanese citizens in American engineering colleges during the 70s, and these students were very…intense. While I was playing Dungeons and Dragons, getting sued by Gary Gygax over copyright issues, and such, these people were learning about the peaceful use of nuclear materials. Some of the professors worked on less peaceful uses of nuclear material during the 50s thru the early 70s. One of these guys had a really interesting patch collection, and displayed it in his office. He NEVER explained what most of the patches were for; only the ones that were common knowledge.
China is being very foolish in threatening to use nuclear weapons on Japan, or even South Korea. I have no doubt that the South Koreans have their own little shop of radioactive horrors, although I doubt they have more than a dozen or so. Just enough to deter the crazies to their north, keep Japanese warplanners awake at night, and give Chairman Xi some first class nightmares.
I should mention that Japan has the second largest military, well trained and equipped. Last I heard they don’t have a bunch of sodomites, perverts, freaks, and womenz running around either. But as pointed out they lack offensive reach by their Constitution. Don’t mistake lack of reach for lack of serious abilities in and around their AOR. Attacking Japan would be very foolish.
Japan, and South Korea have to be observing what is happening in America and they are certainly making alternative plans. They must know that America is no longer a reliable ally.
Looking out over Pearl Harbor today, it’s cold and rainy — would be tough to attack from the air on a day like this. They invited WWII vets over today (not just survivors, as there aren’t many of those left). My Dad is a WWII vet, but you have to show your vax pass to get into the ceremonies so it’s a no go.
I think FDR was a strategic thinker and did foresee the US replacing the UK as the world power. I don’t buy the conspiracy theories.
There’s some good videos on Y-T covering the salvage operations after the attack.
@scott s.,
I too have uncles who fought in the South Pacific.
It certainly isn’t a theory that FDR was a huge fan of Stalin. Those are his own words.
I also don’t think it’s a theory that the U.S. could have avoided the theater by stopping the embargo. Those are Japan’s words.
Finally, it’s not a theory that China would have been much weakened with a powerful Japan.
@ George
Re: “And it should come as no surprise that FDR was eager to assist Stalin. He was always an admirer of Stalin, ceded way too much in the post-WWII order to the communists, and did so in spite of the objections of Churchill.”
The late W.E.B. Griffin, the famous author of reality-based military fiction, was also a tremendous historian – though he was not, as far as known, formally-trained in that field.
In one of his novels, he memorably discusses how Harry Truman’s response to Stalin and the communists differed from that of his predecessor, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. At one point, Griffin characterizes FDR’s view of Stalin as being “just one more troublesome Congressman or Senator whose cooperation and loyalty could be purchased for the price of a new highway or post-office in his district…”
Phrased differently, Stalin played FDR like a fiddle. Harry Truman – who had a much-more cynical and accurate view of the Soviet dictator – ended Lend-Lease aid to the USSR after becoming Commander-in-Chief and President, but not before the damage had been done. By 1945, Soviet agents had penetrated deep into the White House and Whitehall alike, in the U.S. and the U.K., respectively.
Amongst the other things FDR gave to them, via his lackadaisical mismanagement of Lend-Lease, were the plans to America’s then-new super-bomber, the Boeing B-29 “Super Fortress,” an aircraft developed at great cost and effort which was used to bomb the Japanese home islands from bases in the Pacific.
Ultimately, the Soviets stole the atomic bomb, too, thanks to the spy ring of the Rosenbergs, Klaus Fuchs, David Greenglass, Harry Gold and their collaborators and the Soviet penetration of the Manhattan Project. The details came out shortly after the Soviet announcement of a successful first atomic bomb test, in 1949.
In the U.K., the Cambridge Five spy ring was active from the 1930s to the 1950s, consisting of Kim Philby, Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt, and John Cairncross.
Security was so lax in Britain after the war that the Soviets didn’t even have to steal the plans for the then new and revolutionary Rolls-Royce Nene jet engine. Rolls-Royce sold 55 of the engines to the USSR, and within a few short years, Russian-built MIG-15 fighters were being fielded against U.S. & UN forces in the Korean War. The Nene engine was the basis of the Klimov VK-1 power-plant which powered the MIG.