Lessons Learned: Disarming The Iraqi People During The War

BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 4 months ago

From reddit/firearms, this interesting report.

At the local range. We were talking AK rifles. He admitted the russian rifles that weren’t burnt out barrels were excellent rifles. However how they got them was going to door to door confiscation. “to get the good stuff” and give it the the new government soldiers of Iraq. They treated the civilian as no rights and used them as armories.

Him being LEO now. All i can think of he knows where to start the confiscation and “get the good stuff”. If ordered. I doubt he would hesitate at AWB and being the gun club president would use his knowledge to best rifles first.

Very surreal vibe he gave off and I think he became aware of it afterwards. Conversation got to a little awkward at the end.

And Gosh, this strategy worked out so well for Iraq and the American troops, didn’t it?  Leaving them defenseless when the foreign fighters came by in the night, drug heads of household out and took a power drill and drilled holes in their heads as examples to anyone who would cooperate with the Americans, just did wonders for morale, winning hearts and minds, and pacification of the people.

That LEO is a retarded idiot.

Now for the rest of the story.  This only happened as long as the retarded idiots were in charge.  The story was different when the thinking men took charge.  This report was provided to me by my own son, who fought and earned the combat action ribbon in Fallujah in 2007.

The insurgency in Fallujah ended because we locked down the city and made it to where the people had to deal with it or live in utter isolation from everyone else and with no means of transportation, with two ways into and out of the city.

Lt. Col. William F. Mullen (now Col. Mullen) was the unmitigated sovereign of the city.  Nothing happened without his approval.  The Iraqis may have had a right to automobiles too, but we took them away.  If Mullen had wanted to confiscate AK-47s from the folk we could have done that.  The chain of command in Baghdad left us alone, and we did what we wanted to do.

Every family had a fully functional, fully automatic AK-47.  It wasn’t a problem.  I was never shot at except by the insurgents, and mainly the foreign fighters – bad people from Syria, Egypt, Iran, blacks from Africa, and some fighters with slanted eyes from the Far East.  I looked in the face of every man I killed, and some of them had slanted eyes and were of Far Eastern descent.

We did confiscate some weapons caches, but only the ones hidden by the insurgents when the people gave us the intel.  The AK-47s were used by some of the people to fight the insurgents, but they weren’t used on us.  We were fighting the insurgents, and mainly foreign fighters.  We were not afraid of the AK-47s owned by the families.  The families helped us shut down the insurgency when we made it clear that they had to do that.

I have no doubt that Mr. LEO would conduct the same sort of confiscatory practices today on Americans if ordered to do so, as would 99%+ of all other LEOs.

Weapons confiscations are happening as we speak via red flag laws, and they are bound to intensify.  They happened before after Katrina (readers, please ignore Wayne LaPierre commenting in the video).  This will work as long as the people tolerate it, but when they get fed up, there will be hell to pay.

So if you’re a LEO, listen up.  If you support or would participate in these types of confiscatory practices in America, you are a retarded idiot, just like it was retarded to do that in Iraq.  And you just may end up paying with your life.  Many did in Iraq.

As for the rest of us, the lesson is that LEOs are willing to do this.  Don’t let that happen.

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  1. On September 29, 2019 at 9:30 pm, Longbow said:

    “…as would 99%+ of all other LEOs.”

    Bingo! There’s your Vast Majority.

  2. On September 29, 2019 at 10:16 pm, SGT.BAG said:

    We already have our own insurgency here in America. It’s called Socialism.

    Plan accordingly.

  3. On September 29, 2019 at 11:50 pm, Dan said:

    The ‘system’ has been screening FOR and deliberately hiring sociopathic violence prone animals for many years now. SPECIFICALLY because this
    type will “just follow orders”…..usually ENTHUSIASTICALLY. I’d be surprised if there was a SINGLE COP in America who when ordered to go out and violate the Constitution and our rights would say no. ALL Of them
    will look at the oath they swore the at their paychecks, retirement plans and benefit packages…..and IMMEDIATELY say “Ok…..who do I kill”.

  4. On September 30, 2019 at 7:53 am, Badger said:

    It’s the reason commie legislators craft so many laws to create a separate ‘class’ of people, to wit: LEO’s and former/retired exemptions. Fosters the “I have mine, gimme yours you peasant” mentality.

  5. On September 30, 2019 at 8:25 am, Bram said:

    I was in the first Gulf War and the stories I’ve heard from returning Marines from the second are more like your son’s – households were allowed small arms unless they were known insurgents. As we drove up into Kuwait in ’91 we didn’t take any weapons from Kuwaiti civilians – and in a few cases handed over captured AK’s to cooperative Kuwaiti interpreters and informers.

    (The closest I came to killing a man there was a Kuwaiti civilian who decided to celebrate as we entered Kuwait City by doing a mag-dump in the air next to a Marine convoy. Don’t do that next to a company of twitchy Marines.)

  6. On September 30, 2019 at 8:49 am, Ned2 said:

    “.. If you support or would participate in these types of confiscatory practices in America, you are a retarded idiot, …who will be killed.”

    There, fixed it for you.

  7. On September 30, 2019 at 8:51 am, tz said:

    And if they do this kind of confiscation, they will come home safely, to the sound of the velcro opening as they take their body armor off, then wonder where their wife and children are. Then they find out.

    It is one thing to be with a squad of soldiers with your family safely across an ocean living in a secure base. It is another thing entirely to have to live among the people you are killing.

  8. On September 30, 2019 at 10:08 am, Bram said:

    tz – That is a mistake the libs make. They think the local townspeople don’t know where their cops live. They also think National Guardsmen are going to search their own neighborhoods, shoot their neighbors, and confiscate their own guns.

  9. On September 30, 2019 at 3:47 pm, Jack Crabb said:

    “That LEO is a retarded idiot.”

    But you repeat yourself, Cap’n.

  10. On September 30, 2019 at 6:26 pm, real joe biden said:

    Local patriots don’t have to know all the details of every flatfoot. Merely know the details of Sgt on up.
    As was noted, the intentionally-low-IQ patrolperson will follow the ord er s given with extraenthusiasm when they aretold that they will be hurting domestic terrorists and assuring their heroic retirement fund.

  11. On September 30, 2019 at 6:39 pm, JoeFour said:

    I don’t think they’ll be using “locals” to go door to door. It’ll be Blackwater types from who knows where coupled with out-of-town military both of whom will follow their orders regardless of Constitutional conflicts and issues. YouTube had a few videos showing this door to door gun confiscation thing going on in New Orleans’ neighborhoods after Katrina. Also eye-opening instructive were the videos of the martial-law-type shutdown of Boston neighborhoods after the (false flag?) Boston Marathon bombing.

  12. On September 30, 2019 at 10:05 pm, Bad_Brad said:

    Not all LEO are idiots.

    Time to renew my permit in Northern Cali. Got a buddy who recently retired out of a major cities Sheriffs Department. He’s not the only one to retire early as Cali has caved to Black Lives Splatter and re written the law as to when they’re aloud to use deadly force. Anyway my Buds a Post Certified trainer that’s been doing the carry permit thing for extra cash for about ten years. Requirements for a renewal are 4 hours class room and starting this year we need to punch little hole in huge sheets of paper. At 15 yards. So he teamed up with a couple swat guys he knew and they have a pretty good program that goes far and beyond minimum requirements. 8 hours class room, 8 hours range time.
    The last hour of day 1, subject, what do you do immediately after you’ve been involved in a shoot? Clear bad guys weapon, call 911 and tell them you had to shoot someone. NOOOOOOO. Call 911 and request medical services. They’ll ask why. Answer GSW to upper torso. Next question from 911, is the person that shot him still on seen. “I’d like to answer your questions and cooperate however my attorney advises me against it”. 911 will request you stay on the line, bull shit, they’re trying to catch you say something incriminating over an open line. They can pin point your cell phone position in under 2 seconds. Oh yea, holster your weapon immediatly after you’ve established the threat has ended. LEO will find your weapon. You’ll be cuffed and thrown if the back of a patrol car. Eventually they’ll get back to interrogating you. Don’t say shit until your lawyer is present. Train your wife. When they show up at your house, unless they have a search warrant they are not allowed in.
    “This is the best way to insure a good out come in the long run”. Here’s the money quote for the day, coming from three retired LEO. “LEO are not your pals or your friends”.

  13. On October 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm, Richard Raymond said:


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