Don’t Conceal Guns From Cops

BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 4 months ago

Editorial at Toledo Blade:

Police officers in Ohio already face too many threats to their safety when they take to the streets to protect their communities. They should be able to know whether someone they are approaching is armed.

But the Ohio House approved a measure last week that would weaken the state’s concealed-carry laws. It would ease penalties on motorists who fail to promptly alert officers during traffic stops that they have a weapon in their car. The bill is now headed to the Ohio Senate.

What is proposed instead is that a person stopped by authorities could simply hand over his concealed-carry permit with his driver’s license.

The bill also would reduce the severity of the charge for failing to notify the officer from a first-degree misdemeanor to a minor misdemeanor.

The original version of the bill would have eliminated entirely the responsibility for concealed-carry permit holders to notify officers that they were armed, which is disrespectful to law enforcement, and simply reckless.

The bill’s proponents say that law-abiding concealed-carry permit holders should not have to alert anyone to the fact that they are armed. That is also disrespectful, and arrogant.

Advocates for the bill say it would only clean up ambiguous language by removing “promptly,” which can be arbitrarily interpreted. But why not define the term instead of removing a reasonable requirement?

Considering how quickly an interaction between law enforcement and any armed civilian can escalate, it seems more logical that the law-abiding permit-holders would want to immediately alert officers to the presence of a weapon.

Many gun owners who seek out concealed-carry permits do so because they believe carrying a weapon makes them safer. But no one is safer in a situation when police are surprised by a gun.

What the editorial should have said is “We advocate informing cops about weapons because we like to see goober cops shoot weapons carriers.  We like to see that because we have weapons carriers.”

It’s simply insulting to claim that criminals or someone bent on danger to someone else would inform cops of their weapon.  “Why yes, officer, I have a concealed firearm, and I intend to use it to ensure you don’t get home safely at the end of your shift.”

Anyone who informs a LEO about weapons cannot possibly be the real concern, and LEOs know that, and so does the editorial board of the Toledo Blade.  And since the criminal won’t inform a LEO about weapons, everyone really knows that informing LEOs is not relevant to anything at all.

This is really all about being, as the editorial put it, “disrespectful” to LEOs.  Because statists will be statists, and they will always have their armed enablers.

The Ohio Senate should pass this bill.  Why would anyone carrying a firearm want to voluntarily put himself or family in danger from some trigger happy buffoon?


Comments

  1. On October 30, 2017 at 7:27 am, J said:


    The original version of the bill would have eliminated entirely the responsibility for concealed-carry permit holders to notify officers that they were armed, which is disrespectful to law enforcement, and simply reckless.”

    Since when have the Media cared about Dis-Respecting LE?
    Andwer-When it suits there Narative.

  2. On October 30, 2017 at 9:27 am, gflsr said:

    Don’t they already know before they get out of the car.

  3. On October 30, 2017 at 11:02 am, Matthew Wilbanks said:

    I’m wondering if this bill came about in response to this incident a fee years ago in Canton, OH:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc&t=707s

    I live in Oregon and we are only required to notify if the officer specifically asks us if we are carrying. Most cops in my area act like they don’t care when you tell them. Strangely enough, I haven’t seen any blood in the streets because of people not notifying, whouda thunk? As you said, statists gonna statist.

  4. On October 30, 2017 at 11:16 am, Michael said:

    Utah removed the requirement to notify the police nearly a decade ago. Guess what? No permit holder has ever shot an officer, either when the requirement was in place, nor after.

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