The Goal Is People Control, Not Gun Control

BY Herschel Smith
8 years, 1 month ago

The GOP is getting ready to do what the GOP always does – cave to the force of progressive bullies.

According to CBS News’s Steven Portnoy, McConnell has a meeting with FBI director James Comey and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Wednesday. Portnoy Tweeted that McConnell has signaled he may be willing to consider new gun controls after that meeting.

Via SSI, it might be claimed that this is all being done for a purpose and by design, effecting no change except for raising money.

The Republicans have had the White House and the Senate and the House and they have never passed real pro-gun legislation. Bought a full auto lately?  Heck, have you priced a full auto lately?

The Democrats as recently as a few years ago had Obama and the Senate and the House. They didn’t pass gun confiscation legislation either.

It’s a game to keep us distracted.  The Republicans get to scare us with threats of Democrat gun control and we send them money and vote them into office.  For the Democrats, it keeps their rabid base energized to send the Democrats lots of money and get them voted into office.

Heck, even the famous NRA would go broke if real gun rights legislation ever passed into law.

So, how does this lead us to the shootings in Florida?

When things like this happen, I always implore the motto, “follow the money”. Who wins with a shooting of this type?

Obviously, the two political parties do. It’s unlikely that any real legislation will be introduced between now and the election.  Republicans want to be reelected.  Of course Republicans and the NRA are now pushing a “real” bill to keep guns out of the hands of the terrorists.  The Democrats will whine and cry that it isn’t enough but will go along.  Of course once it’s passed and folks want to exercise due process over being on the terrorist watch list, we’ll all be told that national security trumps any legal protections.

And both sides will continue their fund raising.

Well, this is a jaded view, and I’m not above being quite jaded, but this analysis seems to me to ignore several very important things.  First of all, many republicans come from the Northeast where they do want gun control, but they actually fear the loss of that percentage of voters who can put them out of office.  Second, the democrats haven’t passed gun control for one simple reason, i.e., lack of votes.  If they had the votes, you can be assured they would have most white, conservative Christians hooked up to mill wheels turning grain into flour and corn into grits.  The rest would be in concentration camps (Fusion centers).

Ideology trumps donations because enslavement of the working class produces wealth for the elitists.  They will always find a way to enrich themselves.  So if mere interest in campaign donations isn’t the impetus behind this, what is?

Before we get to that, take careful note of what Donald Trump said about this push for gun control.

In an abrupt shift in message, Donald Trump indicated Wednesday that he might be taking on a Republican tenet: the party’s long-standing opposition to gun control.

Trump said he would talk to the NRA about not allowing “people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.” In typical fashion for the presumptive Republican nominee, the announcement came via Twitter:

The NRA, for its part, says there’s no conflict:

Happy to meet @realdonaldtrump. Our position is no guns for terrorists—period. Due process & right to self-defense for law-abiding Americans

In a statement, the NRA said it would be “happy to meet with Donald Trump.” But that:

“The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.”

Trump doesn’t tell the democrats on capital hill to go to hell because first he is a Northeast big government liberal, and second he doesn’t understand the predilection to evil in fallen mankind.  The goal is not now and has never been gun control.  The progressive goal has always been people control.

You know this because when they advocate the total disarmament of the population, they always exclude the police.  It isn’t that they don’t want people to have guns, it’s that they don’t want some people to have guns.  If they could be assured that you would never use your guns to upset their progressive social planners and their designs for society by killing others (even to defend your loved ones), or to prevent their tyrannical designs, they wouldn’t mind you having all the guns your heart desires.

But they cannot trust you with those boundary conditions, and so every machine of the state must be properly tuned to work at their disposal.  Thus, no one can ever get off of the no-fly list once they have made it on.  The decisions for the terrorist watch list and no-fly list are made in secret by the federal executive, and are subject only to the FISA court, which ends up being a rubber stamp for the federal executive.

The terrorist watch list and the no-fly list is different, and they leverage this difference and use it to their advantage when they discuss this in front of the cameras.  Furthermore, there is nothing to stop them from, say, adding all NRA members to the list, or adding you to the list, if you’re reading this article.  After all, they have said they believe that the “right wing terror threat” is the biggest threat facing America today.

No one in the MSM has the guts to ask why someone who is a “terrorist” is allowed to be in America to begin with.  It would force the executive to admit to all of his plans for social change, his open borders policy, the fact that none of these lists are subject to due process, no jury has decided on the fate of pitiful souls who have run afoul of the system, and all such souls are left to the devices of an out-of-control executive who doesn’t care, and sends their problems to judges who have been educated at Harvard, Yale and Emory.

Is anyone really surprised at this?  After all, a Syrian immigrant who said 9/11 changed the world for good is a homeland security advisor.  They will call light darkness and darkness light.  If you believe that the second amendment is in place to ameliorate tyranny, you must be eradicated because you’re the enemy, a right-wing terrorist.

Or so they seem to think.  And that’s the point, isn’t it?  Guns are good, and they know it.  They are wonderful machines, just like cars, stoves, and HVAC.  But in the “wrong” hands they can prevent the grand social designs of the ruling class.  Again, the goal isn’t to destroy the gun companies.  That would mean no one had guns, and no one includes them.

The goal is to control whether you have them, and to do that they won’t be so obvious as to pass a law against all gun ownership.  The Fuds in the hunting clubs will be left alone to purchase their shotguns for dove and quail hunting.  They don’t want to anger the gentlemanly class.

They will go after you by the terrorist watch list, the no-fly list, and any other assortment of executive powers and decisions and regulations and rulings.  They will never confiscate your guns.  They will prevent you from renewing your driver’s license, your hunting license, your fishing license, your professional license, your bank cards, your concealed handgun permits, and in short, all the framework you have built your entire life as a law abiding, peaceable citizen.  Then they will go after your wife and children and their ability to enroll in education.  They will go after what matters most to you.

If you’re focused on guns rather than people and their relationship to the ruling class, you need to be recalibrated.  Don’t ever give up your guns, but think smart and be strategic.  If they can’t take you guns directly, they will attempt to control you by other means.

If you’re disappointed in Donald Trump, be prepared for more to come.  This is only the beginning.  The GOP elitists cannot be trusted, and couldn’t care less for your ability to defend your family.  The democrats want your soul, but will settle for your servitude.  If they can’t come in through the front door, they will come in through the back door.  Conspiracy theories are sometimes correct, but sometimes they blind you to the real situation.  This is about more than campaign donations.  This is about controlling you, and therefore, controlling your guns by extension.

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  1. On June 17, 2016 at 7:33 am, Frank Clarke said:

    My FB avatar (you can see it right here) is a stick figure tossing something into the trash. That something is a Republican icon. There’s already a Democratic icon in the basket.

    Reliance on the Republicans to save us from the Democrats has been foolish for at least 70 years. It is not getting less foolish as time goes by. Each year we are faced with (again) the same old lesser-of-two-evils. It may have seemed in years past that not voting for Republican evil would be catastrophic, but it never seems to have worked out that way, has it?

    So now here we are at the end of the road where even voting for Republican-style evil buys you catastrophe of a sort largely indistinguishable from Democrat-style evil.

    What now?

  2. On June 17, 2016 at 9:42 am, Big Boss said:

    I’m a conservative Christian right winger, but I look at our major parties in this country like 2 cheeks on the same ass.

  3. On June 18, 2016 at 9:25 am, UNCLEELMO said:

    I’m a conservative Christian right winger from California. I think I see my governor in between those two cheeks, if you get my drift.
    The only gun law he won’t sign is the one he’s saving for next year. That way he can look ‘reasonable’ this year.

  4. On June 19, 2016 at 2:49 am, Aguila1952 said:

    I am an ex-Californian who sees some hemorrhoids named Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, et al, clustered in there around the guvna! Left years ago. The stink was just too overwhelming for me.

  5. On June 17, 2016 at 10:17 am, Fred said:

    Because, you see, there is only one evil, after all. It has a chain of command. At its head it wants you pitiful and pitiless, desperate, broken, hopeless, alone. Failure to understand it’s chain of command and goal has repercussions. Some people even work for it consciously, but most know nothing of this place or the next.

    There is only one cure.

  6. On June 19, 2016 at 5:53 am, Jonathan Hemlock said:

    yup, and we are not going to vote away the problem……we’re talking about survival of the white race.

  7. On June 18, 2016 at 11:34 am, GenEarly said:
    I’ll vote for Trump, because he is the Only one All of the elitists are attacking. He may not reflect 100% of my values, but he is a builder, and sometimes a wrecking ball precedes the building.
    Now, really how many people are enthusiastic about preserving the Chamberpot Repub Party of McCain, Romney/Ryan, Mitchy McCuckold and their sycophantic hangers on in the Donor/Consultant/Lobbyist crowd?

  8. On June 20, 2016 at 9:10 am, Daniel said:

    The United States has been slowly transforming into a totalitarian form of government for many decades. The [real] problem is that people are either OK with it, or just too stupid to understand it.

  9. On June 20, 2016 at 11:25 am, Mal Reynolds said:

    Too Stupid.

  10. On June 21, 2016 at 2:28 am, FoR @ FiST FuLL oF DoLL@Rs said:

    voter fraud is rampant check the exit polls for proof.
    obviously our government cannot be trusted with the voting process period when dead people vote, more people than live in a district vote, electronic voting machines with no paper trail, non-citizens voting, rushing people given a lot of free stuff to voting status, prisoners vote, illegal aliens vote, watch hacking democracy on youtube its an eyeopener to voter fraud methods. fair elections require the people to be in charge of insuring the voting process is corruption free not a corrupt to its core federal or state or local government.

  11. On June 21, 2016 at 2:14 am, FoR @ FiST FuLL oF DoLL@Rs said:

    Its two parties against the people and they merely players.

  12. On June 17, 2016 at 10:36 am, Fred said:

    Please do these. Do them several times each and then do them again.

  13. On June 18, 2016 at 11:53 am, GenEarly said:

    The NRA will sell you out because they will accept the Feral Gov. “Lists” to deny the 2nd amendment. Currently over a million on the “terrorist” watch list, currently the “appeals process” of the FBI Background check has been “suspended” with 7,000 people held in pre-crime limbo. NoFly-No Buy is even worse,having to prove your innocence to an faceless unaccountable bureaucracy. But of course John Coryn and the NRA are pushing for “safeguards” in the Quisling Chamberpot Repub senate bill!
    I am a member of the NRA, GOA, and NAGR. and GOA and especially NAGR have a better grasp of the pitfalls of any further gun control by an incompetent and increasingly tyrannical Feral Gov.
    “Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has called for up to four votes on gun control on Monday. They are:
    *** Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (D-CA) so-called “Terrorist watch list” proposal to allow President Obama and Attorney General Loretta Lynch to secretly classify ANY gun owner a “terrorist” and permanently strip their gun rights without due process.
    *** A Republican-backed “compromise” proposal by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) that would still allow the anti-gun Attorney General to strip law-abiding gun owners of their rights by indefinitely delaying due process.
    *** A proposal by Chuck Grassley (R-IA) to spend over a half billion dollars on “beefing up” the existing NICS gun registration system.
    *** The “Toomey-Manchin” expanded gun registration scheme. This time it’s sponsored by radical gun-grabber Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT).
    Now, of course the anti-gun Democrats like Dianne Feinstein would like to do away with due process for gun owners altogether. But even the Cornyn proposal allows President Obama to classify gun owners “terrorists” and strip their gun rights before any court has a say.”

  14. On June 18, 2016 at 5:07 pm, VonZorch said:

    The NRA is the oldest and largest gun control organization in America. They have been in favor of every piece of criminal empowerment legislation since at least 1934.

  15. On June 19, 2016 at 5:56 am, Lina Inverse said:

    Almost, that was true until Clinton’s AW ban, which unlike all the previous ones did not pass with their approval. But since then they’ve backslid, supporting more than a few bills that fortunately haven’t passed.

  16. On June 17, 2016 at 7:01 pm, Elizabeth Hanson said:

    I totally agree. The purpose of all of this is definitely people control. And what stumps me more is when people can see it on one issue but not the other. The elite want to maintain their power and they can only do that by restricting ours. End of story.

  17. On June 18, 2016 at 7:44 am, flova said:

    Trump said he would meet with NRA on the subject of no fly lists and guns. Nowhere in that tweet does it say one way or the other what his position is. In fact the NRA’s response makes it seem as though they are the ones ready to crack the door open for the Marxist trash in the WH to whittle away at our gun rights, and they want to get Trump on board.

    As far as the Republican Party being just like the Democrat Party that’s true. But we are not yet at a place or time when a third party candidate can run and win so Trump had no choice but to run under the R label. Now if Trump isn’t your cup of tea that’s fine, but do not do what the LSM does and read something into his statement that is not there.

  18. On June 18, 2016 at 4:57 pm, Paul Kersey said:

    Trump will talk to anyone. He is smart. His advisers are smart. He has pledged his firm support for the Second Amendment.
    Hillary Clinton has promised gun control, “criminal justice reform”, open borders and endless Muslim immigration if she is elected. “Criminal justice reform means being lenient on criminals. especially black ones. Does anyone think this won’t put us in more danger?
    While it’s possible Trump could go back on his word, Clinton has given her word that this is what she will do.
    Any person who wants to keep their right to keep and bear arms has to vote for Trump.

  19. On June 19, 2016 at 9:22 am, Paul X said:

    Any person who wants to keep their arms needs to shoot anyone trying to confiscate them. If you can’t do that, you might as well sell all your guns right now, to someone with balls. The politicians won’t relieve you from this duty – they are the problem.

  20. On June 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm, GenEarly said:

    Interesting that we “hope” Trump stands by his earlier words in support of the 2nd Amend, and the we Know that Hilarity will stand by her words on gun control/ confiscation.
    We also “hope” the NRA doesn’t cave in to another ProgreSSive step “Forward”, and that Quisling Chamberpot Repubs “stand firm”.
    Perhaps more reliance on Ourselves and the alternative plans B, C, D, & E might be in order.

  21. On June 19, 2016 at 9:18 am, Paul X said:

    “Nowhere in that tweet does it say one way or the other what his position is.”

    As someone said, hope springs eternal in the human breast.

    What he should have said, is that terrorist watch lists are devices to control ordinary Americans, not terrorists. He doesn’t need to meet NRA to say that.

  22. On June 18, 2016 at 7:48 am, Coldsteel1983 said:

    Anyone that has a modicum of awareness can see that the end game is about control, as it has been. The nature of the Progressive Statists will demand nothing less than complete control. Of course, the fly in the ointment is the existence of individuals that value the tenets and values of our Constitution.

    As they ratchet down with the Patriot Act, ACA and other intrusions and infringements on our rights we come closer and closer to either acceding to serfdom or resisting the regime. The next black swan will probably see chaotic conditions and the outbreak of resistance to the regime. Or, our first actual Civil War.

  23. On June 18, 2016 at 12:04 pm, GenEarly said:

    Our 3rd War of Independence, and we had better not lose this one. Thankfully there are many Patriotic Northern Rebels this time around, and we are agreed on the traitorous elitist progreSSive enemy.

  24. On June 18, 2016 at 12:51 pm, Ron Cole said:

    I am reminded of that terrible forced march of the errant Jews by the Babylonians.

  25. On June 18, 2016 at 1:33 pm, said:

    this is most distressing-i fear that,las always,we shall have to rely on ourselves

  26. On June 19, 2016 at 2:14 pm, GenEarly said:

    it should be exhilarating to rely upon ourselves, as our forefathers did. That it is distressing not to have the agreement of traitorous putzes in DC is a clear indicator that even the remnants republic is dead and we are serfs to their political-economic gulag.
    I did say “we”, me included, but we have to face the reality of it. We must rely on ourselves and also each other in our tribes. All the best.

  27. On June 19, 2016 at 2:58 am, Aguila1952 said:

    I would amend your last statement. First they take away your gun rights, then “by extension” they control you. That is the way it has always happened in history. First, take away the ability for self defense. Then they have you by the short & curly’s.

  28. On June 19, 2016 at 5:08 am, Francis W. Porretto said:

    And both sides will continue their fund raising.

    This is the most important bit of the piece. The political parties posture as adversaries, but their behavior suggests the opposite, especially at the strategic / managerial level. Their shared objective was summarized by George Orwell via his never-seen anti-Party character “Emmanuel Goldstein:”

    The object of the High is to remain where they are.

  29. On June 19, 2016 at 9:15 am, Paul X said:

    The terrorist watch list shouldn’t exist at all. It only exists because the US government goes over to the Middle East, attacks and occupies countries and creates terrorists. Then the watch list is used to threaten the peons and keep them in line, and to smack any uppity ones.

    Still think Trump will save you? Go ahead and vote for your preferred slave master, see what good it does you. All members of the ruling class naturally want disarmed peons; their actions should not surprise us. NRA is not going to save you either; they are part of the problem.

    If Hitler were running against Stalin, would you still be voting? Or would you finally drag yourself out of the mud? Well, Hitler IS running against Stalin.

  30. On June 19, 2016 at 2:37 pm, said:

    as of this writing there are 800,000 on the “terror watch list”-think they are all terrs?i bet i know who they put on the list-same ones targeted by IRS etc.

  31. On June 19, 2016 at 12:18 pm, DAN III said:

    I’ve had my disagreements with you in the past but, I cannot tell you how much this essay of yours, for me, is spot on !
    I only wish your remarks were not so accurate. Nevertheless, hearing, seeing, reading the truth is often painful. The truth hurts. The entire “system” has become one big lie to control the populace.
    Thanks for this narrative. It is, sadly, an eye opener.

  32. On June 19, 2016 at 2:38 pm, said:

    it riles them to believe you perceive the web they weave

  33. On June 21, 2016 at 9:14 am, grace country pastor said:

    I find myself in 100% agreement with this assessment. Unless “they” want a hot war they will never attempt the total confiscation of guns. They will continue to “teach the children” that guns are bad. Soon enough the population will turn them in all to willingly. They have always operated under “big picture” initiatives. They are subtle. They are patient.

    Gun control has absolutely zero to do with guns and absolutely everything to do with control.

    While I am near 100% convinced that there is no voting our way out of this; while I will not vote for either of the “1 party” candidates; there is a very reasonable choice to be made that very few in my sphere seem to realize. The Constitution Party is running a man named Darrell Castle and I would recommend the careful examination of his platform at…

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