The PCUSA On Guns

BY Herschel Smith
2 years, 2 months ago

Presbyterian Church (USA) on guns:

Among other things, the Assembly’s action calls for:

  • formation of support, healing and advocacy groups for those who have experienced gun violence in their families;
  • opposition to legislation that exempts gun manufacturers and marketers from legal liability and/or financial accountability for the medical and security costs of predictable gun misuse and availability to criminals, the unstable, and the self-destructive;
  • opposition to “stand your ground” and other legislation that may entitle gun owners to shoot before taking alternative measures (such as relying on law enforcement and/or other de-escalation techniques) in perceived defense of persons or property;
  • encouraging church sessions and PC(USA) entities that own property to declare their particular premises and gatherings to be gun-free zones;
  • raising the age for handgun ownership to 21;
  • supporting legislation to ban semiautomatic assault weapons, armor-piercing handgun ammunition and .50-caliber rifles; and
  • advocacy in support of state and federal legislation to regulate ammunition.

I’m not part of the PCUSA, but having attended Reformed Theological Seminary, I know something about the history of Presbyterianism in the U.S.  The problem started with the Auburn Affirmation, and even before then from the theological liberalism that led directly to that abomination.

Notice that the denomination doesn’t just engage in tactical blundering and hot air.  To be sure, there’s plenty of that to go around.  Reliance on LEOs during period of peril to your life or the lives of your loved ones means that the fight is over by the time (8 – 15 minutes) a LEO arrives.

They go beyond their tactical incompetence and recommend bankruptcy of gun manufacturers when their weapons are misused (similar recommendations for Stanley, Kobalt, Craftsman and other manufacturers of hammers probably won’t be forthcoming when crimes are committed with hammers).  And if that’s not good enough, they recommend new laws that would end with confiscation and civil war when SWAT teams are sent to the doors of patriotic Americans who won’t allow their means of self defense to be confiscated.  So the PCUSA recommends what would inevitably become a bloody mess with cops laying dead in the streets and innocent citizens laying dead in their doorways.

In the mean time, they leave men and women undefended because of their turn to politics to address the theological problems of mankind.  We’ve discussed God’s views of the requirement to defend your loved ones.  The simplest case for killing those who would bring harm to your family lies in the decalogue.

God’s law requires [us] to be able to defend the children and helpless.  “Relying on Matthew Henry, John Calvin and the Westminster standards, we’ve observed that all Biblical law forbids the contrary of what it enjoins, and enjoins the contrary of what it forbids.”  I’ve tried to put this in the most visceral terms I can find.

God has laid the expectations at the feet of heads of families that they protect, provide for and defend their families and protect and defend their countries.  Little ones cannot do so, and rely solely on those who bore them.  God no more loves the willing neglect of their safety than He loves child abuse.  He no more appreciates the willingness to ignore the sanctity of our own lives than He approves of the abuse of our own bodies and souls.  God hasn’t called us to save the society by sacrificing our children or ourselves to robbers, home invaders, rapists or murderers. Self defense – and defense of the little ones – goes well beyond a right.  It is a duty based on the idea that man is made in God’s image.  It is His expectation that we do the utmost to preserve and defend ourselves when in danger, for it is He who is sovereign and who gives life, and He doesn’t expect us to be dismissive or cavalier about its loss.

So while you claim to be a lover of the children, you actually advocate abuse of children because you would disarm the very people with the sworn duty to protect, nurture and provide for them.

The PCUSA is directing its people to run their lives contrary to God’s law, while trying to implement warmed over, washed up hippie ideology as a solution to what ails mankind.  Thus goes perishing denominations.



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  • Ned Weatherby

    This is what happens when Prozis pretend to be theologians. PCUSA appear to be wolves in sheep’s clothing. BTW – where can Satan do his best work? Inside the church, of course. Jesus warned us about that.

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  • boogyoogyoogy

    They are the left, support all left wing causes…..

    What more is there to know about them? Using religion to undermine freedom and country, and if the truth be known, religion itself.

    Sounds like the good old approved churches of the Soviet era.

  • Sho Rembo

    If some religious nutjob assaults me I’m suing PCUSA

  • St. Bernardnot

    Found out my childhood church, that I still sometimes attend, is helping to settle all these illegals coming in. Never did join. After finding this out, never will.

  • hutch1200

    Looks like I know which place to rob this Sunday while they’re counting money after Mass!

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  • guest

    I expect little else from them. Didn’t they also just decide in favor of performing “marriages” for sexual deviants and pedophiles in defiance of holy scripture teaching that these practices are an abomination, and waging economic warfare against Israel?

    Who’d have thought that the Presbyterians would become just another “turned-on hippie church?” I know how the “reasoning” went fifty years ago. “The church has to become indistinguishable from the most decadent and wretched parts of the sinful world, in order to appeal to people who like that sort of thing.” I thought the whole point of religions, and the whole point of churches, was that they preserve core values regardless of whether or not the wider society regards sex with infants and animals to be fashionable this year. A church that’s indistinguishable from the world, which has no convictions or values and merely blows wherever the winds of cultural fads take it, isn’t a church any more–it’s a clubhouse.

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