Narrative Failure in the Charlie Kirk Shooting
BY Herschel Smith
1 month, 2 weeks ago
There are a whole lot of unanswered questions. The reason for this is obvious: something foul is afoot. I don’t claim to know who took the shot, or from what angle, or with what caliber weapon, or for what reason.
But here are the things I know with an extremely high degree of certainty. Charlie Kirk was not shot with a 30-06 rifle. His head would have been decapitated from his body if he had been. If you follow my X account you would know I have said this from the beginning. My belief hasn’t changed. The deer you’re getting ready to shoot this fall wouldn’t survive your high powered rifle shots (30-06, 300 Win Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm PRC) if they were wearing AR500 armor plates.
Here is something else I know with a high degree of certainty. That kid whom they blamed didn’t take down a rifle, stow parts of it in a backpack (that by the way wouldn’t be able to fully enclose the parts anyway), reconfigure it on any building, change his clothes, take a shot, disassemble the rifle again and stow it in a backpack, and drop in anywhere.
Here is something I know with probable certainty (by that I mean more probable than not). That kid they’re blaming didn’t take the kill shot. He may have played a role in some part of the events of that day, up to and including being a scapegoat or patsy, but he didn’t kill Charlie Kirk. I also know with probably certainty that there is no medium in the body in the vicinity in which he was shot that would cause a deflection away from a close exit.
Someone else did. I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever that we will ever know the truth. But if I were on a jury, with the current narrative (the kid shot Charlie with a 30-06 round and the bullet didn’t leave the body, i.e., there was no exit wound, rather, the bullet stopped just under his skin), I would never convict him. It’s sinful to convict men of crimes because you don’t like them.
On September 28, 2025 at 11:27 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “There are a whole lot of unanswered questions. The reason for this is obvious: something foul is afoot. I don’t claim to know who took the shot, or from what angle, or with what caliber weapon, or for what reason.”
The claim that a 30-06 was used for the fatal shot has been ridiculous on its face since it first appeared. The alleged murder weapon, an old military-surplus Mauser K98K re-barreled to 30-06, would have inflicted a far more-violent and visibly dramatic death upon the poor victim than actually happened.
Let’s work backwards: A typical 30-06 hunting load using a 150-grain full-metal jacket (FMJ) at a MV of ~ 2900 fps (which would be typical from a 24-26″ barrel), has 2801 ft-lbs. of kinetic energy at the muzzle. The allegedly fatal shot was taken 175-200 yards away. At that distance, the shot has ~ 2100-2000 ft-lbs. of kinetic energy, depending on the precise distance.
That amount of KE is considered more than double the amount necessary to ethically harvest an adult white-tail deer. And it is sufficient energy to severe a limb from the human body or remove/obliterate the human head entirely.
Those are the sort of terminal ballistics which can be expected from a bone-standard 30-06 hunting load of the kind you can buy in any sporting goods store in America during fall hunting season.
Whatever it was that ended Kirk’s life, it was not a full-power 30-06 load. Period. Full Stop.
Strictly based upon visual evidence, the fatal wound was likely inflicted by something relatively low-powered, such as a small-caliber handgun or its equivalent.
It may have been caused by a non-standard munition custom-made for the operation; don’t forget that if Kirk died at the hands of perpetrators affiliated or working with a nation-state government – that opens up the possibility of all sorts of exotic and non-standard weapons being used.
Re: “I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever that we will ever know the truth.”
There is a strong likelihood that professionals were responsible for this assassination. The trade-craft is too strong, too well-done, for it to be an amateur – even a fairly gifted one. The confusion and proliferation of theories as to the specifics of the act ~ are probably part and parcel of the operation.
The black bag boys have been doing ops of this kind for years going back eighty years to WW2; they’re extremely proficient at them by now. Since there is no way of hiding the public death of someone like Kirk, they seek to obfuscate things in such a way that everything seems confused and questionable – and nothing seems certain or provable.
By muddying up the waters, they create an environment in which everyone’s conspiracy theory seems plausible and correct. And if everyone’s theory is true, then no one’s theory is true!
We’ve seen this dynamic before, in the assassinations of JFK and RFK, MLK and other public figures.
How long before the feds create a “blue ribbon panel” – a “committee of experts” whose job it is – is to get to the bottom of the question of who killed Charlie Kirk? Back then, the public saw the Warren Report at face value; these fine men will get to the bottom of things! – but the real reason such panels and committees are created is not to uncover the truth, but to hide it, to bury it. Or at very least, to buy time for the event to fall out of the headlines and for the public to forget about it and move on to other concerns.
By the time the commission issued its findings, life and events had moved on. Apart from a few diehard investigators on the fringes of things, life moved on. It took years, decades, before a significant number of influential people began questioning the official narrative of Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963 – and the nation still hasn’t dealt with it properly in 2025!
On September 29, 2025 at 4:27 am, Mark Matis said:
My real question is who FUNDED the murder?
Was it Mossad on its own?
Or were the FBI, DoJ, and CIA also neck-deep?
On September 29, 2025 at 4:31 am, Joe Blow said:
Beyond the specifcs of this particular murder, we should be asking why We The People put up with this crap from our government!
Who works for whom?!
Do we not have a 2nd amendment? Do y’all think maybe it was written down for times like this? Or you want it to get worse before you get off your ass and hang your local traitors?
On September 29, 2025 at 5:19 am, Stefan v. said:
First time I saw that horror video I instantly thought “right rear high”. Old infantry habit, because the next one may be for you.
Then came the official version, and my credulity left the room. JFK, 9/11, 10/7, etc.
And after that, watching the theatre unfold, the whole TPU/MAGA vs. Trantifa, with catcalls of Da Joooz, I thought: business as usual.
Don’t rally round their flags, march to their drums, or fall for their deceptions. I concur with H.
On September 29, 2025 at 8:55 am, Don't mind me. said:
That neck wound was an exit wound all day long. He was shot from behind.
On September 29, 2025 at 10:49 am, george 1 said:
#1. The Powers That Be consider us so stupid that most will believe anything they are repeatedly told.
#2. They have plenty of reasons to believe this. After all, collectively we believe or believed:
The U.S.S. Liberty was mistakenly attacked.
JFK was killed by a lone gunman acting by himself.
9-11 was perpetrated by Osama Bin Laden.
The WTC buildings perfectly collapsed into their own footprint due to a jet fuel induced fire. This outcome was calculated by Osama Bin Laden from his cave in Afghanistan.
Iraq was involved in 9-11 and had nuclear weapons. This was later modified to WMDs.
In 2008, a U.S. President was elected to office while having a background story so convoluted and unbelievable that said president would not have been able to obtain a normal security clearance. No one in authority questioned this.
On 10-7-23, the IDF and Mossad were completely fooled by a rag tag terrorist group who were able to penetrate, in mass, the most heavily monitored border on the planet, while the Israeli Military was ordered to stand down and did not respond in force for eight full hours. This in spite of the fact that several foreign intelligence services warned Israel of this danger. The attack was said to be the result of an unfortunate series of events.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a lone gunman, from approximately 150 yards, who used a 30-06 caliber weapon to shoot Charlie in the neck. The projectile entered the soft tissue of the neck and produced no exit wound. This was said to have happened because of: Divine intervention and/or, Charlie had bones that “Were so strong and were like steel.”
You see? The responsible parties say to themselves, “They will buy this one as well.”
On September 29, 2025 at 12:48 pm, PGF said:
Follow the money. What was his job, who paid him for it, and how much did he make?
On September 29, 2025 at 2:50 pm, Old Bill in TN said:
For me, everything hangs on whether Charlie was wearing a chest plate.
Watching the video of the impacts on Charlie, it’d always seemed undeniable that he was hit in the upper chest. How to account for this? The one thing that made any sense at all was he had a plate on, the round impacted the plate, and spall from the round sliced open his artery. Such injuries are familiar to any combat veteran.
What I don’t understand is why those on the scene, or investigating officers, or the medicos, have not corroborated this if it’s true.
I find most of the other theories circulating the web to be improbable.
On September 29, 2025 at 3:22 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Bill,
A 30-06 round would go straight through steel plate and then into Charlie.
A ceramic ESAPI plate might cause some spalling, but even the US doesn’t have SAPI plates that will stop a 30-06 round. Charlie wasn’t wearing a SAPI plate as is clear.
On September 29, 2025 at 7:55 pm, X said:
I’ve shot a LOT of .30-06. A lot. I’m not bragging but I’ve been shooting Garands for 25 years. It’s safe to say that I’ve shot more .30-06 than a World War II GI.
I’ve killed over 40 deer, probably 30 of them with an ’06.
If Kirk was shot with a soft point it would blow a hole in him the size of a softball — if not bigger. If he was shot with an FMJ it absolutely would not have lodged in his neck. Maybe it would at 1000 yards, but not 200. No way.
On October 1, 2025 at 7:36 am, Old Bill in TN said:
Herschel,
I don’t think the round was stopped at all, but deflected (or fragmented as I said above). Charlie didn’t have a entry/exit wound, but a grazing wound that opened his artery.
I think he got hit in the chest because of the video evidence. Something deflected the bullet (if he wore no plate, I have no idea what) upwards. This accounts for the impact seen on video, his wound, and the lack of further impact behind Charlie (it being deflected upward)
There are anecdotal accounts from both world wars of 30-06 and 8mm mouser being deflected by surprising things. That’s not evidence, but it does broaden the realm of possibilities regarding bullet trajectory.
Of course I could be completely wrong on all of this, but conjecturing from the little actual evidence we have leads me this direction. Still surprised the authorities haven’t clarified any of this (doing so couldn’t complicate the trial).
On October 4, 2025 at 3:08 pm, BB said:
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQe2j9ZA7YI . The shot came from behind.
On October 17, 2025 at 12:54 pm, The Gaffer said:
All this analysis lacks one critical element – a precise description of the actual ammunition used and an assessment of its condition. Was the ammunition ancient mil-surp turkish stuff that had been sitting on a pier in the African sun for years?
Just askin’ ‘cuz I read of a “TRN” headstamp somewhere and the trash ammo the ICE facility shooter used in the attack ’round the time of the Kirk killing. Badly degraded ammo may explain the lack of terminal effects.