There Can Be No Reconciliation
BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 4 months ago
Glenn Reynolds links a Tweet by Richard Fernandez.
There will be an incentive to revive the center when even the activists have had a bellyful. As I've frequently argued because the situation is 50-50 total victory by either side is unlikely.
— wretchardthecat (@wretchardthecat) December 4, 2020
The founders and Lincoln kicked a lot of cans down the road. The trick is to know which cans are unkickable.
— wretchardthecat (@wretchardthecat) December 5, 2020
The normally insightful Fernandez widely misses the mark, I think. Let’s start with a thought experiment. List the things for you which are non-negotiable, cans that cannot be “kicked down the road.” Perhaps it may look something like this.
Fair and honest elections, versus stolen, fraudulent elections.
Not one more gun law, not one more infringement.
The continuing survival of the middle class in America.
Sacrosanct individual retirement accounts, no theft from them by the government.
The free exercise of religion.
No more taxes for subsidies or redistribution of wealth.
This is a short list, and a reasonable one. It could have been much longer, but this serves as a good starting point, although you can build your own list.
On every account, the other side has either broken contract and covenant, or they intend to and have said so.
There is ample evidence of election fraud, and if you believe that the country elected Joe Biden as president, you’re as dumb as a bag of rocks. Biden’s own campaign web site explained that they intend to force registration of semi-automatic firearms as NFA items in a national gun registry.
HUD regulations and a host of other preferential treatment for one sector of the public has essentially forced middle class neighborhoods to incorporate low income housing into the middle of their communities. Big spending FedGov would like to nationalize retirement accounts, as they are the last big pot of untouched money that can forestall the reckoning with hundreds of trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities.
If you thought that the exercise of religion was free in America, you haven’t stopped to ponder what the shutdowns did to the churches. Under orders from governors, worship services everywhere were shut down, or otherwise churches faces fines for having public worship. Most establishment types and every leftist in America wouldn’t know anything about this personally, as they are unchurched.
We could go on, but you get the picture, and you develop your own list and compare and contrast with views by the opposition. The problem is that core beliefs, cans that cannot be kicked down the road, and non-negotiable points, are all that we have left. And for conservatives and libertarians in America, the left has made it clear that our core beliefs are all they care about.
Another way of saying it is that the left has made it clear that they intend to go after our core beliefs, and that no amount of compromise on less than core beliefs will make up for our failure to relinquish our core beliefs.
This battle was begun more than a century ago, and successive generations of children were educated in a system designed by Horace Mann, where the state owned the children. The long march through the institutions is over, and the children of hippies easily became collectivists, controllers and totalitarians.
When you believe in nothing, the state becomes your god and you become responsible for building utopia on earth. This all falls into the arms of the real rulers and globalists, those who want to fleece what’s left of the wealth of Americans and enslave the people to the globalist vision.
The politicians on the right, sure enough, want Trump to concede. They want a return to the good old days of printing more money, going on junkets, and eating with each other in the congressional lunch room. The Lieutenant Governor of Georgia, a republican, is disgusted by Trump.
I worry that … fanning the flames around misinformation puts us in a negative position with regards to the 5 January runoff. The mountains of misinformation are not helping the process. They’re only hurting it.”
CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Duncan: “At a certain point, does this disgust you?”
“Oh, absolutely it disgusts me,” Duncan said.
GOP establishment creature Michael Barone says that “Trump and many Republicans have been misbehaving for four weeks in trying to delegitimize Joe Biden’s 43,809-vote victory.” The sorry National Review can’t go a day without another jab not only at Trump, but conservatives as well. And Mitch McConnell wants to find a way to “work with president-elect Biden.”
A return to the good old days. Except that’s not going to happen. Any establishment GOP politician who believes he or she will get the support of voters in the next election (even assuming that there will ever be another free and fair election) is mistaken to the point of being completely delusional.
Trump didn’t cause this problem. Trump was the last, best chance for change. Unfortunately, Trump and his administration were unprepared for the deepness of the deep state. His work to ensure honest elections would have had been started in 2016 to have any chance of success.
It’s too late now. That doesn’t mean that this is over or anywhere near finished. The Marxist revolution in America is not fait accompli. It just enters a new, more dangerous phase. When there are two sides, and each side has made it clear that they intend either to crush the other side’s core principles, or otherwise prevent that other side from crushing those core principles, and that elections are no longer an option because of fraud, there are few alternatives left.
The left assumes that it’s over. The establishment GOP assumes that they can return to junkets and the congressional lunchroom in peace. Neither group really gets it. Neither group understands flyover America, traditional people who want to be left alone. The biggest problem is that a peaceable split or divorce is no longer possible given that there is no clean geographic way to do this any more. That horse left the barn a long time ago.
For all of the frivolities that this invites, the left and the establishment GOP should remember one very important thing. You wanted this. This is on you.
On December 7, 2020 at 3:52 am, HempRopeAndStreetlight said:
No, they get nothing from me. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. If pressed, my response is the report of my rifle. It will speak in every way that matters. Not one more inch. Nothing. They get NOTHING they can’t take.
On December 7, 2020 at 8:21 am, Matt Bracken said:
I am convinced that CW2 is inevitable now.
Even family members who live in the MSM bubble have no idea about the Hunter Biden laptop, have never heard of Tony Bobulinski, and fully believe that Biden’s election was 100% legit.
Left and Right inhabit parallel realities occupying the same 50 states. When war breaks out (it will) most of the fighting will be in the suburbs, with the opposite poles being the urban blue hives and the rural red counties.
Nobody can tell exactly how this will evolve, and it will probably manifest differently in different states and regions, but I am still thinking along the lines of “Rwanda times Bosnia.”
On December 7, 2020 at 8:48 am, Frank Clarke said:
When Oleg Volk (who did my cover art) read an early galley of ‘Tipping Point’ ( http://frankclarke.dx.am/TipPtPage.html ), his review was “Gee Frank, I hope you haven’t written a documentary.”
I had hoped that, too.
Looks like we’ll both be disappointed.
On December 7, 2020 at 9:11 am, Adino said:
Belief systems birth ideologies.
Ideologies birth philosophies.
Philosophies birth paradigms.
Paradigms birth goals.
Goals birth strategies.
Strategies birth political/financial/spiritual systems.
The left and right part ways at belief systems, and everything down stream from that between the left and right is incompatible. Period. It just can’t be made to work. On that I agree wholeheartedly.
Left and right don’t even share the same definitions anymore. What the Marxists and Moslems think is ‘fair’ and Trad America thinks is ‘fair’ are worlds apart. We can’t agree on what ‘love’ and ‘hate’ are anymore. For crying out loud we can’t even agree on how many sexes there are.
There may be no chance for peaceful separation at this point. Especially since the american oligarchs really seem to want it.
But I still think its worth a try.
The whole balkanization conversation needs to mainstream. Staying in the current situation is desired by no one. At this stage I think the divorce conversation may have real support.
They don’t want to be in a country with us, we don’t want to be in a country with them.
The more people talking and thinking about a peaceful divorce, the greater its scant chances.
Irreconcilable differences. Let’s get the divorce.
It may not work. At all. CW2 may very well be baked into the cake.
But having the open honest discussions about it at least keep the option open in the hearts and minds of the little people.
On December 7, 2020 at 9:20 am, Name (required) said:
The country isn’t split 50-50: it’s more like 30-70, L-R. The Left and their GOP servants have been making it look like an even split by running Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee candidates and by vote flipping.
It’s heartening to know that a clear majority of us hate the globohomo Left and everything they stand for, but it really doesn’t matter except practically. They are wrong, and it would be wrong to allow them to take power if they had a 70% majority.
It’s time to proscribe the Left and the Leftists, time for an Inquisition. No, that’s not metaphor.
On December 7, 2020 at 9:41 am, George 1 said:
I like the non-negotiable list. I would just suggest adding a complete immigration moratorium for the foreseeable future. A big part of the left depends on foreign ideas of philosophy. Look at Minneapolis.
This idea that you can import people by the tens of millions from even the most backward places on the globe into America and the magic dirt will somehow make them “Yankee-Doodle-Dandies” has been a disaster.
On December 7, 2020 at 9:41 am, Dirk said:
If there’s to be a fist fight,
I pray we fight smart.
I pray the removal of shot callers is, priority.
I pray we pick our turf, we fight on our terms.
I pray we don’t allow the real assholes to escape, like WWI and WWII.
I pray we are sucessful so that our greatgreatgreat grandchildren won’t have to address these issues ever again.
I pray we have the wisdom to follow the money, to the very top.
I pray that we each acknoledge our weaknesses, better understand our abilities.
I know, this isn’t personal, this is just taking care of business, making wrong right.
Gentleman, if you haven’t, it’s time to get your legal affairs in order.
Wills.
Trusts.
Funding streams for loved ones.
Many will not return, many will be incarcerated, foolish to leave your personal affairs up to the state, when a good lawyer can smooth out that transition.
If you only have one target, how does one leverage that into max confusion/fear?
And please please understand, that those hunting you have unlimited resources, they will spare no expense in exterminating the White patriot.
Your govt, fears you far more then 20.000 Marxists. Your actions could trigger Un-imaginable pain, suffering, and loss of money and POWER for “THEM”. The white Patriot is literally the corner stone, the hinge pin holding em up from their agenda!.
God Bless
Dirt
On December 7, 2020 at 9:50 am, tangotango03 said:
Reminds me of a quote from Babylon 5. Ambassador Londo speaking to the head of security about the Centari empire.
“You make very good sharks, Mr. Garibaldi. We were pretty good sharks ourselves once, but somehow, along the way, we forgot how to bite. There was a time when this whole quadrant belonged to us. What are we now? Twelve worlds and a thousand monuments to past glories. Living off memories and stories, selling trinkets.”
Seemed fitting.
On December 7, 2020 at 10:02 am, Len Savage said:
I think his words are appropriate at this time and something our alleged leaders had better take into consideration:
“Middle class America is no less violent than any other people. They seem passive because they’re results oriented.
They rise not out of blood frenzy but to solve the otherwise insoluble. Their methods of choice are good will, cooperation, forbearance, negotiation and finally, appeasement, roughly in that order.
Only when these fail to end the abuse do they revert to blowback. And they do so irretrievably. Once the course is set and the outcome defined, doubt is put aside.
The middle class is known, condemned actually, for carrying out violence with the efficiency of an industrial project where bloody destruction at any scale is not only in play, it’s a metric.
Remorse is left for the next generation, they’ll have the leisure for it. We’d like to believe this is merely dark speculation. History says it isn’t.”
– Ol’Remus
On December 7, 2020 at 10:19 am, blake said:
I fully expect CW 2.0 to start out with people going down lists.
At which point, Government will start trying to confiscate guns.
Then things will really get sporty.
On December 7, 2020 at 10:25 am, blake said:
@ Len Savage:
“Beware the fury of a patient man.”
On December 7, 2020 at 10:27 am, Ned2 said:
Having a “non-negotiable” list isn’t enough. They will keep picking away at it, forcing us to compromise.
We need to start acting like the enemy if we are to retrieve anything that’s been taken away from us over the last 110 years. And that means having a list of restorations to our liberties.
We need to REPEAL thousands of laws, from every aspect of society.
First by non-compliance, then by force.
On December 7, 2020 at 10:53 am, Fred said:
Couple of things:
“Belief systems birth ideologies.”
@Adino above makes the most important point there is to know, spiritually, religiously about the Left. It’s a religion. You cannot reason with it. Adino hits it out of the park in understanding that religion is paramount, penultimate, and therefore social and economic systems of a society flow from that religion. Religion is merely a set of beliefs the operation of which brings social structure in support of those beliefs. But this is the most important part to understand; pay attention: Government is downstream of that society. The government won’t save us, because it can’t. It’s merely a reflection of our religion, being run by the adherents and operated under the tenets of that religion. The number of politicians through all of human history that have actually led a nation can be counted without taking off your shoes. Politicians have been and always will be jumping out in front of the religion of a people claiming that they are it’s leader, when in fact all are nothing but grifters, cons, and charlatans.
Secondly: Trump won in landslide. I don’t mean this as hyperbole, or that he merely won a majority of the popular and/or electoral college votes. He won like Reagan, maybe even more so. He didn’t just win; America first HAS A GLOBAL MANDATE from it’s people!!! I said; a global mandate from it’s people.
Third: If the election was rigged that much, and it was, we are already at war, having our covenant(s) overthrown against our will, is an act of war, it’s a revelation.
Fourth: That means it’s to be rebellion, Sirs. That’s right, I’m openly calling for rebellion against the government of the United States of America. God help us.
Fifth: they wanted this. This is their fault. You needn’t feel guilty or remorse about what must be done. You should feel exhilarated and YES, I’m talking to you Christians. This is your war more than any other. This war has been brought to your nation by things foreign to Life, righteousness, Justness. If not Christians to show and lead the way as the signers of the declaration were, then who, the secular humanists on the right who’s religion is no different, at it’s core, than the left’s?
Sixth: There are chicom agents rife throughout all of your local government and governing bodies. And that’s only because the America commies welcome them.
Seventh: What a time to be alive in Christ and to die by His will. Truly who could deny the working and power of God Almighty?
On December 7, 2020 at 11:11 am, Adino said:
It is the rare historical exception that war benefits the middle classes.
War is a tool. And like any tool, what it is wielded for and how, is dependent on who is wielding it.
The overwhelming majority of the time, war is the tool the oligarch classes use to consolidate wealth and power. At the expense of the middle class. One should at least consider the song remains the same.
I am not saying open rebellion – including the use of violence – against a tyrannical government isn’t a duty of God fearing patriots that has it’s time and place. It does.
I am saying that extreme caution needs to be used when the hall has been rented, the band hired, and the music playing when the invitation to dance comes.
If the oligarchs are determined to have the war, they intend to win it, and it won’t just be the voting machine deck that has been stacked against us. They are evil, not stupid.
Our best nature has been used to get us positioned where we are, and I doubt they will quit trying to use our nature against us now.
This needs to happen on Trad America’s terms, not oligarchic terms.
And I do again think that all peaceful avenues for divorce should be sought first.
If we have to fight our way to the door, so be it. But we should at least try to walk out it peacefully first.
YMMV.
On December 7, 2020 at 11:18 am, Herschel Smith said:
@Fred,
I am neither calling for anything nor not calling for anything. I’m being an observer, an analyst. I’m noting the signs of the times.
I’m noting what the various parties have said and done, and their intentions, and trying to be a good assessor of things. A student of history, philosophy and religion.
All of this makes me very sad.
On December 7, 2020 at 11:29 am, Aesop said:
The Left is going to be the most surprised when this blows up on them.
All 99% of them are hearing about 24/7 from ABCNNBSeeBS is that Biden won, Trump is crazy, and all the crazy “theories” of election fraud have been “debunked”.
And like the Emperor’s New Clothes, none of them question this.
It’s accepted as immovable reality.
The 1% in on the Big Con know better, but no one dares jump ship and admit the truth. They’d be Clintoned in a New York minute.
And in about 7 weeks, it all starts to go off in their faces.
Hilarity ensues, right up until the blood gets about hip-deep.
On December 7, 2020 at 12:34 pm, Paul B said:
I live in the Suburbs. Surrounded by people who, while working would stop in a heart beat. But I am deeply rural in upbringing and out look.
I am not sure what to do as I will be out numbered, even in my own house. The left is wanting dissolution of the family unit. I think if they did not listen to NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC or FoxNews they would not be so blind to the truth.
Not sure what to do.
On December 7, 2020 at 1:21 pm, John said:
I have been carefully following the Whuflu lockdowns and the growing anger
they have engendered. There are many outbreaks of opposition and gatherings
loudly voicing a bitter disgust boiling out of a huge number of economically
destroyed or damaged people. Sheriffs in places like LA are stating they will
not enforce tyranny and the cops that do are finding themselves in precarious
situations surrounded by angry crowds.
This sets the stage.
If the Left steals the election, it will automatically go into runaway mode and
tighten Whuflu, movement restricted or vaccine required and gun grabbing rules
down hard on a people who are sure it has no legal authority and in fact is
a puppet of China.
That’s where their push to steal America is going to be met with hard opposition
from many millions of fed up, armed and dangerous people who now know their
laws are usurped and wealth stolen by a Commie mafiai that makes George III look good.
On December 7, 2020 at 3:40 pm, Sanders said:
You want to know who will stand against tyranny, and who will embrace it? Easy. The slave class identifies itself by covering their faces in submission.
Judging by that, I’d say Team Liberty is greatly outnumbered.
On December 7, 2020 at 5:50 pm, Arkindole said:
@Paul B…
Read: “Sissi” (Finnish light infantry)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissi_(Finnish_light_infantry)
You’re in the “Red White War” right now.
On December 7, 2020 at 6:11 pm, scott s. said:
When politicians and their supporters spend 4 years calling you “neo-Nazi” and “irredeemable” it seems a bit of wishful thinking that there can be compromise. Of course in Gov’t there will be a few true believers but the majority will be “go along to get along”. It remains to be seen if Biden is his own master (and if so for how long) or simply a puppet.
On December 7, 2020 at 6:58 pm, Jimmy the Saint said:
@Name (Required): “The country isn’t split 50-50: it’s more like 30-70, L-R.”
Except in the younger age brackets, then the ratio is probably more like 70L-30R, if that favorable to the Right.
On December 7, 2020 at 10:56 pm, Ozark Redneck said:
RE: @PaulB: I believe education of the ignorant is the best recourse, Mark Levin on his Sunday evening show (Life Liberty & Levin), showed a very complying case for voter fraud in PA, I believe you can watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3wmHDewNQs
When living with those who do not follow the ball as close as we do, you must educate them every day: “Did you hear about …” It is constant education that slowly erodes their belief that what they heard on CNN, NPR, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, etc is not correct, they know something is not right, but they need a ‘re-grounding” in the truth. Good Luck!
On December 8, 2020 at 5:37 am, Hudson H Luce said:
The “left” that supports Biden isn’t really all that leftist. Most of the people I know who people here might consider to be “left”, if they voted at all, voted for Trump. By no means do they come from a right-wing background, some are artists in San Francisco and LA, others are rural ex-hippies, others are definite new age types. If you were to look at them, they’d probably *look* “left”. They voice exactly the same concerns seen here, and in very close to the same terms. I’d be careful judging on stereotypes, people you might at first glance consider to be opponents might be on the same side as you. I’d go beyond the labels and find out their concerns and what drives them, you might be surprised.