So Why Does DHS Need 1.6 Billion Rounds Of Handgun Ammunition?

BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 7 months ago

From Market Daily News:

Paul Joseph Watson: While the Obama administration sets out to eviscerate the gun rights of American citizens in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, earlier this week it was announced that the Department of Homeland Security has awarded a company a contract worth over $45,000 dollars to provide the DHS with 200,000 more rounds of bullets.

This new purchase adds to the staggering figure of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition already secured by the DHS over the last 9 months alone.

A solicitation originally posted on the FedBizOpps.gov website on December 17 on behalf of the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center advertised the need for 200 cases of 13–40 Cal, 180 Grain, Jacketed Hollow Point bullets, with each case containing 1000 rounds, to be delivered almost immediately as soon as the contract is awarded.

So I’m just asking.  And don’t tell me that the DHS needs all of this ammunition for training.  You do the math.  Assume (as an enveloping case) that the DHS consists of 15,000 agents who need yearly qualification.  Divide 1.6 billion by 15,000, and you get more than 100,000 rounds of handgun ammunition per agent.

If each qualifying agent shot 1000 rounds per day, he could practice for 100 days at that rate before needing more ammunition.  This shooting rate is something nearing equivalence with Marine infantry and Army special forces doing pre-deployment workups for combat.

You do the math.



  • JeffC

    just accelerated govt spending for the election … the 1.6 billion rounds would cost over 500 million …

  • http://www.captainsjournal.com/ Herschel Smith

    Doesn’t make sense. They could have thrown the money away towards a “Green” company.

    No, this is one more in a long series of purchases of the same thing.

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  • Jean

    That is more rounds than a pre 9-11 infantry division would use in a year.

  • http://www.captainsjournal.com/ Herschel Smith

    Jean,

    Not to mention the fact that no one can put that many rounds through a weapon without needing – at the very least – a new barrel, new guide rod and new spring. So you ditch the old weapon and buy new ones instead.

  • Jean

    Well they are probably diverting the rounds to the black flag freedom fighters in the Middle East.

  • jj

    ^ Interesting angle…

  • John Cartwright

    There are 200,000 armed agents in DHS, not 15,000 and the rounds are to be delivered over the next five years, not all at once. It works out to about 40 rounds per agent per week over five years.

  • http://www.captainsjournal.com/ Herschel Smith

    “There are 200,000 armed agents in DHS, not 15,000 …”

    Prove it.

  • Jean

    That is about 11 divisions worh of DHS agents, I feel very safe now. DHS has about 200K employees, that includes clerks and spoons. Most are support and admin types.

  • Oliver

    Check the timeline. DHS started buying up ammo well in advance of Aurora and Sandy Hook. Did they have a crystal ball? I don’t think so.

  • http://www.captainsjournal.com/ Herschel Smith

    Oliver,

    I never said anything about the DHS purchasing ammunition prior to or after Sandy Hook, or the Colorado event either. They have been doing this for a while. I never said differently. Chrystal ball has nothing to do with it. It’s a world view, an overarching plan, a mission, that has them purchasing so many rounds of ammunition. Now. Riddle me this. What’s that mission?

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  • http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/ Donald Sensing

    The Left here has long theorized that since they will not be able actually to eliminate firearms from America then the way to achieve gun control is to control ammunition. What this administration seems to be doing is buying ammunition not for any legitimate government need, but to simply reduce availability and increase costs for purchasing ammo by ordinary Americans.

  • http://www.captainsjournal.com/ Herschel Smith

    And you may be right, Donald. That’s one theory.

  • david5300

    I can’t wait for the yard sale, our government has the habbit of buying at full price then selling it off for pennies on the dollar

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  • Gamingtech777

    Lots of good comments but the most outstanding and glaring theory is DHS has figured out there may be a full collapse of the Gov’t. Has anyone thought about this? Just a theory!! 1.6 billion rounds equates to 5 rounds per each citizen in this country. Think about it!!!

  • http://plbirnamwood.blogspot.com Darkwater

    DHS (& Social Security plus the other alphabet agencies) are passing this off as ‘business as usual’.

    An easy way to clear that up would be to have them pony up their aquisition plans for ammo (and armored vehicles) since 1990 so that we can do a simple ‘compare & contrast’.

    That should clear it right up. And how long do you think it will take them to respond?

  • http://plbirnamwood.blogspot.com Darkwater

    The New American (not what one would call an objective source) cites a Marsha Catron, spokesperson (spokeshuman?, spokesentity? – whichever is PC today) for DHS, as saying that DHS has over 100,000 armed agents and officers, not including the Coast Guard, which procures its ammo through DoD contracts.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/14891-congress-seeks-answers-on-huge-homeland-security-ammo-contracts

  • http://summitpost.org bubba

    I’ll take your 100,000 agents and raise you 12,000,000 armed and pissed off citizens and call your bluff.

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