Well goodness, I hadn’t heard about this
BY Herschel SmithHells Angels Gun Fight with Cartel Members Crossing the Arizona Border
It was a bloody fight and the biker gang planned and fought with military efficiency. Yeah, I’ll bet they did. The Cartel lost > 300 shooters that day on an Arizona road.
So here’s a question for you. Why were > 300 cartel shooters in a convoy in Arizona? Why did we retire the A-10 when it could have taken these cartel members out in an instant?
Here’s another question for you. Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico to be enemies of America?
On November 11, 2025 at 2:06 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “Here’s another question for you. Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico to be enemies of America?”
That’s a very good question. Anyone whose primary loyalty is to the United States and who wants the nation and its people to survive and prosper, would ask it. The trouble is, a great many people in power in this country, in the U.S., no longer feel any particular sense of loyalty to the United States.
A few years ago, a senior executive from General Motors was interviewed, and during the Q&A with the reporter, the executive was asked about changes in the economy and whether he still viewed GM as an “American” firm or not. He paused for a moment, and then said “No,” and went on to explain that Buick-GMC, one of GM’s brands/divisions, does more business in the PRC than in the U.S. – so why should he think of GM as being an American company anymore?
With minor details, the dynamic applies with Mexico. So many organizations and firms on this side of the border have entered into business arrangements in Mexico, that many would be forced to close their doors if the U.S. went to war with Mexico – or at the very least, would be crippled in the short term until they could adjust.
Ordinary Americans are the ones keeping the spirit of the Founders alive in this country; the managerial class has no loyalty to the country or its founding values and traditions, except insofar as they can profit them. The same applies for American workers; the managerial class is happy to fire domestic labor if overseas labor can boost the bottom line. Loyalty is for saps, suckers… that’s their basic worldview.
On November 11, 2025 at 7:22 am, jrg said:
I never heard of this action either. That is impressive. I’m surprised the Hells Angels went to the trouble to engage in this activity. U.S. civilian militias who would do the same would be called out by our government as ‘vigilantes’ and be strongly discouraged from doing. No so the Hells Angels. Civilians who kept an eye on border smugglers and reported them to LEOs were discouraged from participating. It is a ‘government matter’.
I don’t blame the government of Mexico directly for cartel violence. Much of the violence is directed at their own civilian population when they call out the cartels. Government officials and free press are murdered when they publicly call out the cartels to stop. So they cave and say nothing, knowing that preserves Mexican civilian lives.
The U.S. military engaging the cartels is only fair. It is self defense – cartels do not care the cost of human lives on our side of the border. Drug users are stupid enough to take it – it is their problem. But those problems becomes all of our problems.
On November 11, 2025 at 10:25 am, mike said:
While I hope it is true, some of the details are questionable to me. This seems to have escaped all publicity with the exception of this overly dramatic, AI narrated video. It makes me wonder if this is really just someone’s wet dream.
– Why such a large convoy with so much protection? The cartels seem able to move product in enough volume much less conspicuously than this. That much contraband would overwhelm a distribution system once it is delivered. It seems illogical to deliver 40 trucks worth of fentanyl in one trip with that many escorting gunmen.
-Did anyone catch the narrator say the Mexican military tried to cross the border and retrieve the cartel casualties? They were interdicted in this effort by the US military?
– The cartel payback as described seems to have been underwhelming, which is uncharacteristic of them. A couple of murders, inconsequential driveby shootings, and a junkyard arson are well below what I would expect to see from organizations with 1000’s of gunmen, supporters, and unlimited financial resources.
– The HA supposedly killed three cartel bosses inside Mexico in the tit for tat aftermath and carved winged skulls on their chests as a calling card. That sounds a little like a Hollywood script writer fantasy too. Would you expect the HA to be able to step foot in Mexico in any strength in the aftermath of such an action and not be compromised? The cartels own everything and everybody down there and gringo bikers or any outsiders for that matter are not going to go un-noticed, never mind track down and kill 3 cartel bosses on their own ground with seeming impunity. Taking time to perform some artistic knife carving on each of them is simply over the top.
— The ambush itself also seems a little too ambitious. The video seems to suggest that Harley Davidson street bikes were/are the primary transportation for the ambushing force and that such machines have an unlimited offroad capability. I don’t know much about the area geography, but if it is rough at all or anything other than hard packed desert, the street bikes would be more of a liability then an enabler. Even if they could transit all of the terrain involved, they certainly are not the ideal platform nor are they untrackable.
On November 11, 2025 at 10:42 am, george 1 said:
Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico enemies of the U.S.?
In the case of China a lot of the former U.S. industrial base is located there. They are also the only game in town for highly refined rare earth minerals. The U.S. needs those for its’ military machine. The Trump administration tried to initiate a trade war with China, perhaps with good intentions of trying to reindustrialize America. However no one in the administration had done their homework regarding rare earths.
The U.S. is not going to be able to replace the highly refined rare earths easily or at all in the foreseeable future. The minerals are abundant but the U.S. lacks the ability to refine them to the needed very high degree. We can source many of them but not the highly refined ones. The Japanese have been attempting to produce them for quite some time but are not able to. I read an article a while back that said approximately 800 lbs of this material is needed to produce a single F35.
On November 11, 2025 at 10:28 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
Gee, if Hell’s Angels fought the cartel’s “soldatos” and gunmen that effectively, maybe someone ought to hire them into the Border Patrol! Sounds like they’d take the job seriously.
It is germane to note that prior to the founding of the Border Patrol in the 1920s, it was one of the responsibilities of the U.S. military to patrol our border with Mexico.
And in 1916, after the raid upon Colombus, N.M. by Mexican outlaw Pancho Villa, 6,000 U.S. Army soldiers under the command of General John “Black Jack” Pershing, were sent into Mexico to find and bring him to justice. The so-called “punitive expedition” did not succeed in this regard, but the operation got the attention of the government in Mexico City, which ordered Mexican Army forces to interdict them.
At Carrizal, on June 21, 1916, U.S. troops from the 10th Cavalry fought those of Mexican General Felix Gomex. Forty five Mexican troops lost their lives, including Gomex. War between the U.S. and Mexico looked likely for a time, but was averted in the end.
Villa remained active in the ongoing Mexican Revolution, but did not repeat his foray into the United States again. He met his end in 1923 at the hands of assassins who ambushed his automobile in a fusillade of gunfire.
On November 12, 2025 at 9:23 am, James said:
I agree with Georgia,if our govt. won’t/can’t do it hire those who will…..,and pay them well.
I found it surprising if true that other clubs are also to a degree doing the same thing.
On November 12, 2025 at 1:47 pm, Dan said:
Perhaps nobody has heard of this event because maybe it didn’t happen. Or a minor incident is being grossly exaggerated. An incident that produces 2-300 bodies and dozens of burned out vehicles is not something unnoticed or easily hidden. So as always…. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
On November 12, 2025 at 4:15 pm, Stefan v. said:
Because the “we” that own and run the country want things this way, and worse. The “we” that don’t like it don’t count, they are being disposed of.
On November 26, 2025 at 11:18 am, Ned said:
Interesting that there’s one reference to this on MSN and no where else. It’s apparently so super secret no one else ever heard of it.