Well goodness, I hadn’t heard about this

BY Herschel Smith
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Hells Angels Gun Fight with Cartel Members Crossing the Arizona Border

It was a bloody fight and the biker gang planned and fought with military efficiency. Yeah, I’ll bet they did. The Cartel lost > 300 shooters that day on an Arizona road.

So here’s a question for you. Why were > 300 cartel shooters in a convoy in Arizona? Why did we retire the A-10 when it could have taken these cartel members out in an instant?

Here’s another question for you. Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico to be enemies of America?

 


Comments

  1. On November 11, 2025 at 2:06 am, Georgiaboy61 said:

    Re: “Here’s another question for you. Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico to be enemies of America?”

    That’s a very good question. Anyone whose primary loyalty is to the United States and who wants the nation and its people to survive and prosper, would ask it. The trouble is, a great many people in power in this country, in the U.S., no longer feel any particular sense of loyalty to the United States.

    A few years ago, a senior executive from General Motors was interviewed, and during the Q&A with the reporter, the executive was asked about changes in the economy and whether he still viewed GM as an “American” firm or not. He paused for a moment, and then said “No,” and went on to explain that Buick-GMC, one of GM’s brands/divisions, does more business in the PRC than in the U.S. – so why should he think of GM as being an American company anymore?

    With minor details, the dynamic applies with Mexico. So many organizations and firms on this side of the border have entered into business arrangements in Mexico, that many would be forced to close their doors if the U.S. went to war with Mexico – or at the very least, would be crippled in the short term until they could adjust.

    Ordinary Americans are the ones keeping the spirit of the Founders alive in this country; the managerial class has no loyalty to the country or its founding values and traditions, except insofar as they can profit them. The same applies for American workers; the managerial class is happy to fire domestic labor if overseas labor can boost the bottom line. Loyalty is for saps, suckers… that’s their basic worldview.

  2. On November 11, 2025 at 7:22 am, jrg said:

    I never heard of this action either. That is impressive. I’m surprised the Hells Angels went to the trouble to engage in this activity. U.S. civilian militias who would do the same would be called out by our government as ‘vigilantes’ and be strongly discouraged from doing. No so the Hells Angels. Civilians who kept an eye on border smugglers and reported them to LEOs were discouraged from participating. It is a ‘government matter’.

    I don’t blame the government of Mexico directly for cartel violence. Much of the violence is directed at their own civilian population when they call out the cartels. Government officials and free press are murdered when they publicly call out the cartels to stop. So they cave and say nothing, knowing that preserves Mexican civilian lives.

    The U.S. military engaging the cartels is only fair. It is self defense – cartels do not care the cost of human lives on our side of the border. Drug users are stupid enough to take it – it is their problem. But those problems becomes all of our problems.

  3. On November 11, 2025 at 10:25 am, mike said:

    While I hope it is true, some of the details are questionable to me. This seems to have escaped all publicity with the exception of this overly dramatic, AI narrated video. It makes me wonder if this is really just someone’s wet dream.

    – Why such a large convoy with so much protection? The cartels seem able to move product in enough volume much less conspicuously than this. That much contraband would overwhelm a distribution system once it is delivered. It seems illogical to deliver 40 trucks worth of fentanyl in one trip with that many escorting gunmen.

    -Did anyone catch the narrator say the Mexican military tried to cross the border and retrieve the cartel casualties? They were interdicted in this effort by the US military?

    – The cartel payback as described seems to have been underwhelming, which is uncharacteristic of them. A couple of murders, inconsequential driveby shootings, and a junkyard arson are well below what I would expect to see from organizations with 1000’s of gunmen, supporters, and unlimited financial resources.

    – The HA supposedly killed three cartel bosses inside Mexico in the tit for tat aftermath and carved winged skulls on their chests as a calling card. That sounds a little like a Hollywood script writer fantasy too. Would you expect the HA to be able to step foot in Mexico in any strength in the aftermath of such an action and not be compromised? The cartels own everything and everybody down there and gringo bikers or any outsiders for that matter are not going to go un-noticed, never mind track down and kill 3 cartel bosses on their own ground with seeming impunity. Taking time to perform some artistic knife carving on each of them is simply over the top.

    — The ambush itself also seems a little too ambitious. The video seems to suggest that Harley Davidson street bikes were/are the primary transportation for the ambushing force and that such machines have an unlimited offroad capability. I don’t know much about the area geography, but if it is rough at all or anything other than hard packed desert, the street bikes would be more of a liability then an enabler. Even if they could transit all of the terrain involved, they certainly are not the ideal platform nor are they untrackable.

  4. On November 11, 2025 at 10:42 am, george 1 said:

    Why haven’t we declared China and Mexico enemies of the U.S.?

    In the case of China a lot of the former U.S. industrial base is located there. They are also the only game in town for highly refined rare earth minerals. The U.S. needs those for its’ military machine. The Trump administration tried to initiate a trade war with China, perhaps with good intentions of trying to reindustrialize America. However no one in the administration had done their homework regarding rare earths.

    The U.S. is not going to be able to replace the highly refined rare earths easily or at all in the foreseeable future. The minerals are abundant but the U.S. lacks the ability to refine them to the needed very high degree. We can source many of them but not the highly refined ones. The Japanese have been attempting to produce them for quite some time but are not able to. I read an article a while back that said approximately 800 lbs of this material is needed to produce a single F35.

  5. On November 11, 2025 at 10:28 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:

    Gee, if Hell’s Angels fought the cartel’s “soldatos” and gunmen that effectively, maybe someone ought to hire them into the Border Patrol! Sounds like they’d take the job seriously.

    It is germane to note that prior to the founding of the Border Patrol in the 1920s, it was one of the responsibilities of the U.S. military to patrol our border with Mexico.

    And in 1916, after the raid upon Colombus, N.M. by Mexican outlaw Pancho Villa, 6,000 U.S. Army soldiers under the command of General John “Black Jack” Pershing, were sent into Mexico to find and bring him to justice. The so-called “punitive expedition” did not succeed in this regard, but the operation got the attention of the government in Mexico City, which ordered Mexican Army forces to interdict them.

    At Carrizal, on June 21, 1916, U.S. troops from the 10th Cavalry fought those of Mexican General Felix Gomex. Forty five Mexican troops lost their lives, including Gomex. War between the U.S. and Mexico looked likely for a time, but was averted in the end.

    Villa remained active in the ongoing Mexican Revolution, but did not repeat his foray into the United States again. He met his end in 1923 at the hands of assassins who ambushed his automobile in a fusillade of gunfire.

  6. On November 12, 2025 at 9:23 am, James said:

    I agree with Georgia,if our govt. won’t/can’t do it hire those who will…..,and pay them well.

    I found it surprising if true that other clubs are also to a degree doing the same thing.

  7. On November 12, 2025 at 1:47 pm, Dan said:

    Perhaps nobody has heard of this event because maybe it didn’t happen. Or a minor incident is being grossly exaggerated. An incident that produces 2-300 bodies and dozens of burned out vehicles is not something unnoticed or easily hidden. So as always…. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

  8. On November 12, 2025 at 4:15 pm, Stefan v. said:

    Because the “we” that own and run the country want things this way, and worse. The “we” that don’t like it don’t count, they are being disposed of.

  9. On November 26, 2025 at 11:18 am, Ned said:

    Interesting that there’s one reference to this on MSN and no where else. It’s apparently so super secret no one else ever heard of it.

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL

Leave a comment


You are currently reading "Well goodness, I hadn’t heard about this", entry #37710 on The Captain's Journal.

This article is filed under the category(s) Mexican Cartels,Mexico and was published November 10th, 2025 by Herschel Smith.

If you're interested in what else the The Captain's Journal has to say, you might try thumbing through the archives and visiting the main index, or; perhaps you would like to learn more about TCJ.

26th MEU (10)
Abu Muqawama (12)
ACOG (2)
ACOGs (1)
Afghan National Army (36)
Afghan National Police (17)
Afghanistan (704)
Afghanistan SOFA (4)
Agriculture in COIN (3)
AGW (1)
Air Force (41)
Air Power (10)
al Qaeda (83)
Ali al-Sistani (1)
America (22)
Ammunition (303)
Animals (319)
Ansar al Sunna (15)
Anthropology (3)
Antonin Scalia (1)
AR-15s (392)
Arghandab River Valley (1)
Arlington Cemetery (2)
Army (89)
Assassinations (2)
Assault Weapon Ban (29)
Australian Army (7)
Azerbaijan (4)
Backpacking (4)
Badr Organization (8)
Baitullah Mehsud (21)
Basra (17)
BATFE (245)
Battle of Bari Alai (2)
Battle of Wanat (18)
Battle Space Weight (3)
Bin Laden (7)
Blogroll (3)
Blogs (24)
Body Armor (23)
Books (3)
Border War (18)
Brady Campaign (1)
Britain (39)
British Army (36)
Camping (5)
Canada (18)
Castle Doctrine (1)
Caucasus (6)
CENTCOM (7)
Center For a New American Security (8)
Charity (3)
China (18)
Christmas (18)
CIA (30)
Civilian National Security Force (3)
Col. Gian Gentile (9)
Combat Outposts (3)
Combat Video (2)
Concerned Citizens (6)
Constabulary Actions (3)
Coolness Factor (3)
COP Keating (4)
Corruption in COIN (4)
Council on Foreign Relations (1)
Counterinsurgency (218)
DADT (2)
David Rohde (1)
Defense Contractors (2)
Department of Defense (219)
Department of Homeland Security (26)
Disaster Preparedness (5)
Distributed Operations (5)
Dogs (15)
Donald Trump (27)
Drone Campaign (4)
EFV (3)
Egypt (12)
El Salvador (1)
Embassy Security (1)
Enemy Spotters (1)
Expeditionary Warfare (18)
F-22 (2)
F-35 (1)
Fallujah (17)
Far East (3)
Fathers and Sons (2)
Favorite (1)
Fazlullah (3)
FBI (39)
Featured (192)
Federal Firearms Laws (18)
Financing the Taliban (2)
Firearms (1,863)
Football (1)
Force Projection (35)
Force Protection (4)
Force Transformation (1)
Foreign Policy (27)
Fukushima Reactor Accident (6)
Ganjgal (1)
Garmsir (1)
general (15)
General Amos (1)
General James Mattis (1)
General McChrystal (44)
General McKiernan (6)
General Rodriguez (3)
General Suleimani (9)
Georgia (19)
GITMO (2)
Google (1)
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (1)
Gun Control (1,706)
Guns (2,402)
Guns In National Parks (3)
Haditha Roundup (10)
Haiti (2)
HAMAS (7)
Haqqani Network (9)
Hate Mail (8)
Hekmatyar (1)
Heroism (5)
Hezbollah (12)
High Capacity Magazines (16)
High Value Targets (9)
Homecoming (1)
Homeland Security (3)
Horses (2)
Humor (72)
Hunting (56)
ICOS (1)
IEDs (7)
Immigration (122)
India (10)
Infantry (4)
Information Warfare (4)
Infrastructure (4)
Intelligence (23)
Intelligence Bulletin (6)
Iran (171)
Iraq (379)
Iraq SOFA (23)
Islamic Facism (64)
Islamists (98)
Israel (19)
Jaish al Mahdi (21)
Jalalabad (1)
Japan (3)
Jihadists (82)
John Nagl (5)
Joint Intelligence Centers (1)
JRTN (1)
Kabul (1)
Kajaki Dam (1)
Kamdesh (9)
Kandahar (12)
Karachi (7)
Kashmir (2)
Khost Province (1)
Khyber (11)
Knife Blogging (7)
Korea (4)
Korengal Valley (3)
Kunar Province (20)
Kurdistan (3)
Language in COIN (5)
Language in Statecraft (1)
Language Interpreters (2)
Lashkar-e-Taiba (2)
Law Enforcement (6)
Lawfare (14)
Leadership (6)
Lebanon (6)
Leon Panetta (2)
Let Them Fight (2)
Libya (14)
Lines of Effort (3)
Littoral Combat (8)
Logistics (50)
Long Guns (1)
Lt. Col. Allen West (2)
Marine Corps (281)
Marines in Bakwa (1)
Marines in Helmand (67)
Marjah (4)
MEDEVAC (2)
Media (68)
Medical (146)
Memorial Day (6)
Mexican Cartels (46)
Mexico (70)
Michael Yon (6)
Micromanaging the Military (7)
Middle East (1)
Military Blogging (26)
Military Contractors (5)
Military Equipment (25)
Militia (9)
Mitt Romney (3)
Monetary Policy (1)
Moqtada al Sadr (2)
Mosul (4)
Mountains (25)
MRAPs (1)
Mullah Baradar (1)
Mullah Fazlullah (1)
Mullah Omar (3)
Musa Qala (4)
Music (25)
Muslim Brotherhood (6)
Nation Building (2)
National Internet IDs (1)
National Rifle Association (97)
NATO (15)
Navy (31)
Navy Corpsman (1)
NCOs (3)
News (1)
NGOs (3)
Nicholas Schmidle (2)
Now Zad (19)
NSA (3)
NSA James L. Jones (6)
Nuclear (63)
Nuristan (8)
Obama Administration (222)
Offshore Balancing (1)
Operation Alljah (7)
Operation Khanjar (14)
Ossetia (7)
Pakistan (165)
Paktya Province (1)
Palestine (5)
Patriotism (7)
Patrolling (1)
Pech River Valley (11)
Personal (75)
Petraeus (14)
Pictures (1)
Piracy (13)
Pistol (4)
Pizzagate (21)
Police (671)
Police in COIN (3)
Policy (15)
Politics (993)
Poppy (2)
PPEs (1)
Prisons in Counterinsurgency (12)
Project Gunrunner (20)
PRTs (1)
Qatar (1)
Quadrennial Defense Review (2)
Quds Force (13)
Quetta Shura (1)
RAND (3)
Recommended Reading (14)
Refueling Tanker (1)
Religion (499)
Religion and Insurgency (19)
Reuters (1)
Rick Perry (4)
Rifles (1)
Roads (4)
Rolling Stone (1)
Ron Paul (1)
ROTC (1)
Rules of Engagement (75)
Rumsfeld (1)
Russia (37)
Sabbatical (1)
Sangin (1)
Saqlawiyah (1)
Satellite Patrols (2)
Saudi Arabia (4)
Scenes from Iraq (1)
Second Amendment (705)
Second Amendment Quick Hits (2)
Secretary Gates (9)
Sharia Law (3)
Shura Ittehad-ul-Mujahiden (1)
SIIC (2)
Sirajuddin Haqqani (1)
Small Wars (72)
Snipers (9)
Sniveling Lackeys (2)
Soft Power (4)
Somalia (8)
Sons of Afghanistan (1)
Sons of Iraq (2)
Special Forces (28)
Squad Rushes (1)
State Department (23)
Statistics (1)
Sunni Insurgency (10)
Support to Infantry Ratio (1)
Supreme Court (79)
Survival (214)
SWAT Raids (58)
Syria (38)
Tactical Drills (38)
Tactical Gear (17)
Taliban (168)
Taliban Massing of Forces (4)
Tarmiyah (1)
TBI (1)
Technology (21)
Tehrik-i-Taliban (78)
Terrain in Combat (1)
Terrorism (96)
Thanksgiving (13)
The Anbar Narrative (23)
The Art of War (5)
The Fallen (1)
The Long War (20)
The Surge (3)
The Wounded (13)
Thomas Barnett (1)
Transnational Insurgencies (5)
Tribes (5)
TSA (25)
TSA Ineptitude (14)
TTPs (4)
U.S. Border Patrol (8)
U.S. Border Security (22)
U.S. Sovereignty (29)
UAVs (2)
UBL (4)
Ukraine (10)
Uncategorized (105)
Universal Background Check (3)
Unrestricted Warfare (4)
USS Iwo Jima (2)
USS San Antonio (1)
Uzbekistan (1)
V-22 Osprey (4)
Veterans (3)
Vietnam (1)
War & Warfare (430)
War & Warfare (41)
War Movies (4)
War Reporting (21)
Wardak Province (1)
Warriors (6)
Waziristan (1)
Weapons and Tactics (80)
West Point (1)
Winter Operations (1)
Women in Combat (21)
WTF? (1)
Yemen (1)

December 2025
November 2025
October 2025
September 2025
August 2025
July 2025
June 2025
May 2025
April 2025
March 2025
February 2025
January 2025
December 2024
November 2024
October 2024
September 2024
August 2024
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006

about · archives · contact · register

Copyright © 2006-2025 Captain's Journal. All rights reserved.