ATF Withdraws Pistol Brace Guidance

BY Herschel Smith
11 months, 1 week ago

The ATF has withdrawn its pistol brace guidance.  This may have come from Trump.  We have no way of knowing.

This may have come from the fact that bloggers like me have covered this in such detail and with such derision (although it’s doubtful).  It may be from more public articles like ones written by David Codrea.  This may have been due to multiple congressmen weighing in with derision.

This may have been due to videos like Mr Guns ‘n Gear weighing in with such derision (here is his take on the withdrawal).  It may have been due to the utter derision with which reddit/firearms treated the ATF and its rule making.

I’ve seen and been involved with rule making before, and I confess that I’ve never seen such comments made to the FedGov before on a proposed rule.  The ATF should have been rightly concerned.  I predict noncompliance would have been 100%, and I frankly wouldn’t have wanted to be an ATF agent under such rules (but then I wouldn’t want to be an ATF agent anyway because I have moral scruples).

We may never know why the ATF chose to do this, and why they chose to do it now.  But I do disagree with Mr Gun ‘n Gear, who claims that “we’ve won (for now).”  No, we haven’t won.  For those relying on the pen being mightier than the sword, that will not always obtain, and it may not have this time.

One thing we can be sure of, though, is that this is not over.  Ryan Cleckner has outlined a number of gun control initiatives likely to occur in a Biden administration, and he’s right that they would love all of them.  Whether they will get them all is another story.  Another story still is whether, even if they get any of those initiatives, the public will care enough to oblige the FedGov with compliance.

But they will try for all these initiatives, and they will try this pistol brace ruling again at another time.  When they do, the boys from reddit/firearms will send them the same brutal comments they did before, and probably worse.  They were virtually daring the ATF to try something like that.

This was just a skirmish – the real battles are yet to come.

UPDATE: “TTAG has learned that the final straw that persuaded the ATF to back down and withdraw the guidance was serious pressure applied by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. A call took place over the weekend involving a number of firearms industry companies and McConnell’s office.

McConnell’s subsequent involvement in the matter, along with fast and furious (to coin a phrase) activism from the gun rights community in opposition to the ATF’s proposed move were what resulted in this evening’s win.

More details may be revealed over time, but this is an unqualified victory.”

That’s interesting detail, but no, it’s not an “unqualified victory.”  This is a strategic decision by the ATF.  This will come around again.

Trackbacks & Pingbacks


Comments

  1. On December 23, 2020 at 10:51 pm, tballard said:

    Exactly. This is most likely a strategic move on ATF’s part to avoid setting any legal precedents that hurt their gun confiscation efforts in the future. More than likely, they are withdrawing this for now counting on the GA Senate races to flip to the Democrats and the near-term passage of comprehensive gun control legislation that will give them the legal cover they need. They simply realized they had jumped ahead of the process in their eagerness to kick in the doors of all those newly created felons. Count on it – they will be back.

  2. On December 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm, Fred said:

    What’s the address of the ATF?

  3. On December 24, 2020 at 1:37 am, Hedge said:

    Yawn. More blather from one side or the other.

  4. On December 24, 2020 at 8:50 am, Wes said:

    McConnell likely slapped them for speaking out loud before the GA election. If the enemy ever ceased its efforts, after hearing from Eric Holder how a white person could by definition not be a victim of a hate-crime, we wouldn’t be hearing about Critical Race Theory taught in public schools & to the military.

    They do not stop, ever, until they are physically dissociated from their ability to enslave.

  5. On December 24, 2020 at 9:03 am, Bill Buppert said:

    “They do not stop, ever, until they are physically dissociated from their ability to enslave.”

    Words to live or die by, Wes wins the internet today.

  6. On December 24, 2020 at 9:08 am, Herr Draufgänger said:

    Fred et al;

    This is what you really want to know, the locations of US field offices:

    https://www.atf.gov/contact/local-atf-offices

    For informative purposes only….

  7. On December 24, 2020 at 9:53 am, Longbow said:

    Just as with their proposed rule making of M855 ammo, they set it aside…for now.

    They will be back. They will never stop.

    What kind of a man works for an agency the primary function of which is a violation of he very oath of office? Or, to put it another way, what kind of man takes an oath of office, and upon completion of his oath, goes to work doing the very thing he just swore an oath NOT to do?

    The answer to that question will tell you why they do what they do.

  8. On December 24, 2020 at 10:41 am, Heywood said:

    “… and I frankly wouldn’t have wanted to be an ATF agent under such rules (but then I wouldn’t want to be an ATF agent anyway because I have moral scruples).” Thank you Herechel. Had a crappy shift at work and that made mr laugh out loud.

  9. On December 24, 2020 at 11:32 am, Heywood said:

    Wow. I need to proofread.^^^^^^^^^

    Herechel? mr?

  10. On December 24, 2020 at 11:54 am, Barefoot Peckerwood said:

    This is merely a minor obstacle. They will try again, within 180 days as there will probably be a major incident with a 80% kit

  11. On December 24, 2020 at 1:58 pm, Randolph Scott said:

    Bowmanize these pricks.

  12. On December 24, 2020 at 4:03 pm, John Richardson said:

    Using Sherlock Holmes’ logic in the the dog that didn’t bark, I find it interesting that there has been zero interest in the Req. for Comment from the gun control industry. They normally have tons of pre-written comments ready to be sent and they have not even mentioned it.

    My level of paranoia is rising as a result. Something is in the works. We just don’t know the details yet.

  13. On December 24, 2020 at 5:36 pm, Dirk said:

    Who cares what ATF, says or does.

    Dirt

  14. On December 26, 2020 at 5:31 am, Roger J said:

    Wow, Herr Draufgaenger, thanks, for an “underfunded” agency, ATF has a helluva lot of field offices. I never realized so many.

    I agree with commenter “Barefoot Peckerwood.” There is nothing like a high profile arranged incident to convince the low information public believing CNN, WaPo and other disinformation operations that “something must be done.” It worked with bump stocks…

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL

Leave a comment


You are currently reading "ATF Withdraws Pistol Brace Guidance", entry #26486 on The Captain's Journal.

This article is filed under the category(s) BATFE and was published December 23rd, 2020 by Herschel Smith.

If you're interested in what else the The Captain's Journal has to say, you might try thumbing through the archives and visiting the main index, or; perhaps you would like to learn more about TCJ.

26th MEU (10)
Abu Muqawama (12)
ACOG (2)
ACOGs (1)
Afghan National Army (36)
Afghan National Police (17)
Afghanistan (704)
Afghanistan SOFA (4)
Agriculture in COIN (3)
AGW (1)
Air Force (36)
Air Power (9)
al Qaeda (83)
Ali al-Sistani (1)
America (21)
Ammunition (172)
Animals (117)
Ansar al Sunna (15)
Anthropology (3)
Antonin Scalia (1)
AR-15s (303)
Arghandab River Valley (1)
Arlington Cemetery (2)
Army (80)
Assassinations (2)
Assault Weapon Ban (27)
Australian Army (7)
Azerbaijan (4)
Backpacking (2)
Badr Organization (8)
Baitullah Mehsud (21)
Basra (17)
BATFE (121)
Battle of Bari Alai (2)
Battle of Wanat (18)
Battle Space Weight (3)
Bin Laden (7)
Blogroll (3)
Blogs (23)
Body Armor (21)
Books (3)
Border War (14)
Brady Campaign (1)
Britain (38)
British Army (35)
Camping (4)
Canada (3)
Castle Doctrine (1)
Caucasus (6)
CENTCOM (7)
Center For a New American Security (8)
Charity (3)
China (15)
Christmas (12)
CIA (29)
Civilian National Security Force (3)
Col. Gian Gentile (9)
Combat Outposts (3)
Combat Video (2)
Concerned Citizens (6)
Constabulary Actions (3)
Coolness Factor (3)
COP Keating (4)
Corruption in COIN (4)
Council on Foreign Relations (1)
Counterinsurgency (218)
DADT (2)
David Rohde (1)
Defense Contractors (2)
Department of Defense (191)
Department of Homeland Security (26)
Disaster Preparedness (4)
Distributed Operations (5)
Dogs (12)
Donald Trump (26)
Drone Campaign (3)
EFV (3)
Egypt (12)
El Salvador (1)
Embassy Security (1)
Enemy Spotters (1)
Expeditionary Warfare (17)
F-22 (2)
F-35 (1)
Fallujah (17)
Far East (3)
Fathers and Sons (2)
Favorite (1)
Fazlullah (3)
FBI (32)
Featured (186)
Federal Firearms Laws (18)
Financing the Taliban (2)
Firearms (1,442)
Football (1)
Force Projection (35)
Force Protection (4)
Force Transformation (1)
Foreign Policy (27)
Fukushima Reactor Accident (6)
Ganjgal (1)
Garmsir (1)
general (15)
General Amos (1)
General James Mattis (1)
General McChrystal (44)
General McKiernan (6)
General Rodriguez (3)
General Suleimani (9)
Georgia (19)
GITMO (2)
Google (1)
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (1)
Gun Control (1,380)
Guns (1,945)
Guns In National Parks (3)
Haditha Roundup (10)
Haiti (2)
HAMAS (7)
Haqqani Network (9)
Hate Mail (8)
Hekmatyar (1)
Heroism (4)
Hezbollah (12)
High Capacity Magazines (16)
High Value Targets (9)
Homecoming (1)
Homeland Security (1)
Horses (1)
Humor (37)
ICOS (1)
IEDs (7)
Immigration (94)
India (10)
Infantry (4)
Information Warfare (2)
Infrastructure (2)
Intelligence (23)
Intelligence Bulletin (6)
Iran (170)
Iraq (379)
Iraq SOFA (23)
Islamic Facism (64)
Islamists (95)
Israel (18)
Jaish al Mahdi (21)
Jalalabad (1)
Japan (2)
Jihadists (80)
John Nagl (5)
Joint Intelligence Centers (1)
JRTN (1)
Kabul (1)
Kajaki Dam (1)
Kamdesh (9)
Kandahar (12)
Karachi (7)
Kashmir (2)
Khost Province (1)
Khyber (11)
Knife Blogging (4)
Korea (4)
Korengal Valley (3)
Kunar Province (20)
Kurdistan (3)
Language in COIN (5)
Language in Statecraft (1)
Language Interpreters (2)
Lashkar-e-Taiba (2)
Law Enforcement (4)
Lawfare (7)
Leadership (6)
Lebanon (6)
Leon Panetta (2)
Let Them Fight (2)
Libya (14)
Lines of Effort (3)
Littoral Combat (8)
Logistics (50)
Long Guns (1)
Lt. Col. Allen West (2)
Marine Corps (271)
Marines in Bakwa (1)
Marines in Helmand (67)
Marjah (4)
MEDEVAC (2)
Media (62)
Medical (112)
Memorial Day (6)
Mexican Cartels (36)
Mexico (52)
Michael Yon (6)
Micromanaging the Military (7)
Middle East (1)
Military Blogging (26)
Military Contractors (4)
Military Equipment (24)
Militia (6)
Mitt Romney (3)
Monetary Policy (1)
Moqtada al Sadr (2)
Mosul (4)
Mountains (25)
MRAPs (1)
Mullah Baradar (1)
Mullah Fazlullah (1)
Mullah Omar (3)
Musa Qala (4)
Music (24)
Muslim Brotherhood (6)
Nation Building (2)
National Internet IDs (1)
National Rifle Association (78)
NATO (15)
Navy (24)
Navy Corpsman (1)
NCOs (3)
News (1)
NGOs (2)
Nicholas Schmidle (2)
Now Zad (19)
NSA (3)
NSA James L. Jones (6)
Nuclear (58)
Nuristan (8)
Obama Administration (221)
Offshore Balancing (1)
Operation Alljah (7)
Operation Khanjar (14)
Ossetia (7)
Pakistan (165)
Paktya Province (1)
Palestine (5)
Patriotism (7)
Patrolling (1)
Pech River Valley (11)
Personal (67)
Petraeus (14)
Pictures (1)
Piracy (13)
Pistol (2)
Pizzagate (21)
Police (549)
Police in COIN (3)
Policy (15)
Politics (915)
Poppy (2)
PPEs (1)
Prisons in Counterinsurgency (12)
Project Gunrunner (20)
PRTs (1)
Qatar (1)
Quadrennial Defense Review (2)
Quds Force (13)
Quetta Shura (1)
RAND (3)
Recommended Reading (14)
Refueling Tanker (1)
Religion (248)
Religion and Insurgency (19)
Reuters (1)
Rick Perry (4)
Rifles (1)
Roads (4)
Rolling Stone (1)
Ron Paul (1)
ROTC (1)
Rules of Engagement (75)
Rumsfeld (1)
Russia (32)
Sabbatical (1)
Sangin (1)
Saqlawiyah (1)
Satellite Patrols (2)
Saudi Arabia (4)
Scenes from Iraq (1)
Second Amendment (442)
Second Amendment Quick Hits (2)
Secretary Gates (9)
Sharia Law (3)
Shura Ittehad-ul-Mujahiden (1)
SIIC (2)
Sirajuddin Haqqani (1)
Small Wars (72)
Snipers (9)
Sniveling Lackeys (2)
Soft Power (4)
Somalia (8)
Sons of Afghanistan (1)
Sons of Iraq (2)
Special Forces (28)
Squad Rushes (1)
State Department (23)
Statistics (1)
Sunni Insurgency (10)
Support to Infantry Ratio (1)
Supreme Court (30)
Survival (58)
SWAT Raids (55)
Syria (38)
Tactical Drills (2)
Tactical Gear (6)
Taliban (168)
Taliban Massing of Forces (4)
Tarmiyah (1)
TBI (1)
Technology (17)
Tehrik-i-Taliban (78)
Terrain in Combat (1)
Terrorism (95)
Thanksgiving (12)
The Anbar Narrative (23)
The Art of War (5)
The Fallen (1)
The Long War (20)
The Surge (3)
The Wounded (13)
Thomas Barnett (1)
Transnational Insurgencies (5)
Tribes (5)
TSA (22)
TSA Ineptitude (13)
TTPs (4)
U.S. Border Patrol (5)
U.S. Border Security (14)
U.S. Sovereignty (17)
UAVs (2)
UBL (4)
Ukraine (3)
Uncategorized (58)
Universal Background Check (3)
Unrestricted Warfare (4)
USS Iwo Jima (2)
USS San Antonio (1)
Uzbekistan (1)
V-22 Osprey (4)
Veterans (3)
Vietnam (1)
War & Warfare (318)
War & Warfare (40)
War Movies (4)
War Reporting (21)
Wardak Province (1)
Warriors (6)
Waziristan (1)
Weapons and Tactics (73)
West Point (1)
Winter Operations (1)
Women in Combat (21)
WTF? (1)
Yemen (1)

November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006

about · archives · contact · register

Copyright © 2006-2021 Captain's Journal. All rights reserved.