One Year After Constitutional Carry In Idaho And There Is No Blood Running In The Streets

BY Herschel Smith
2 years, 5 months ago

The Washington Times:

COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho (AP) – Exactly one year after it went into effect, an Idaho gun law that allows people to carry concealed firearms without a permit has had little effect on crime rates, state law enforcement officials said.

It has, however, impacted the number of Idaho concealed carry permits being issued, some firearm trainers said.

The law allows most residents age 21 or older to carry concealed guns without a permit inside cities, in bars and in most government buildings.

When the Idaho Legislature enacted its permitless firearms concealed carry law a year ago, it was not without warnings from a broad spectrum, including anti-gun groups and Idaho chiefs of police.

The warnings are still in place, but so far, adverse results haven’t materialized.

“We believe dismantling the longstanding and effective permitting system without taking additional precautionary steps will weaken public safety,” Bill Bones, Jeff Lavey and Rick Allen, chiefs of police in Ada County, wrote in a letter to the Idaho Statesman last year. “Our concealed weapons licensing system is the only way to determine the person is not a felon or dangerous person prohibited from possessing firearms.”

Coeur d’Alene Police concur that the permitless carry law has disabled at least one tool police used to check felons for firearms, but Detective Jared Reneau said the state’s latest gun law seems to have had little effect on crime rates in Coeur d’Alene.

“It hasn’t been a topic of discussion,” he said. “We haven’t noticed a significant increase.”

So far, 12 states – the number has increased from eight a year ago – have adopted permitless concealed carry firearms laws. They include Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, and West Virginia. A permitless carry bill was passed in Michigan’s House this month and is on the way to its Senate.

In Nez Perce County, Idaho’s most gun-friendly county where an estimated 59 percent of residents own guns – the highest rate in the state – Sheriff Joe Rodriguez said his department did not anticipate an increase in gun crimes a year ago when permitless carry became law.

“The way we look at, we live in the Northwest. Everyone has a firearm,” Rodriguez said.

His officers are trained to be alert for weapons, and permitless carry didn’t change that. It didn’t affect crime rates either, he said.

“Nothing has changed,” Rodriguez said.

He anticipated the number of residents applying for concealed carry permits would fall off, but that didn’t happen, either.

“We’re still processing a lot of concealed weapons permits,” he said.

Concealed weapons permits are required in neighboring states and Idaho’s enhanced concealed weapons permit is honored in a majority of them. That makes it a popular choice among gun owners.

Ed Santos, who operates Center Target Sports in Post Falls, which has trained 24,000 firearm owners in 12 years to obtain a concealed permit, has noticed no downward trend in its business.

Santos said some thought the number of concealed carry permits would decrease because they would no longer be needed.

“That has not been the case,” he said. “We’ve actually seen an increase.”

He attributes that to firearms owners becoming accustomed to carrying without a permit, and wanting to travel to other states with a gun in their belt. In most states, they need a concealed permit to do that.

“We really haven’t seen a negative impact,” Santos said.

Post Falls Police Chief Scott Haug, president of the Idaho Chiefs of Police Association, said the permitless carry law has not resulted in an increase in crime. It may, however, have given a green light for people inexperienced with guns to carry firearms without proper training.

One of Haug’s officers found a handgun under a tree in a park, he said, and he has seen people in Walmart with pistols hanging out of their back pockets.

“People get complacent,” he said. “They don’t understand how quickly that gun can be used against them in a matter of seconds.”

This is an amazing article.  First of all, blood isn’t running in the streets.  Second, we learn that peaceable, law abiding citizens still want to be peaceable and law abiding, meaning that for states that still require permitting and with travel freedom being at stake, permits are still valued.  Constitutional carry needs to continue sweeping the nation for God-given rights to be fully realized.  Only peaceable men follow the law.

Third, read the LEO’s warnings again.  They preached their “blood will be running in the streets” sermon before passage of the bill, it didn’t happen, and yet that has had no effect on their sermon.  Facts don’t inform their hysteria.  They never have, anywhere this has ever come up.  I’ve documented this same sort of thing with open carry in Texas, only to see them react with shock when blood didn’t run in the streets.  They’ll preach it until they have no more breath to speak.

Finally, consider that gun sitting under the tree in the park.  It must be the fault of permitless carry, huh?  So what the hell does that have to do with the rest of the article?  Do they pay people money to write this crap?


Comments

  1. On July 4, 2017 at 4:33 am, Nosmo said:

    Controllers want to control, profiteers want to profit; that should come as no surprise as it’s their default setting. Their “control” and “profit” motivations far outweigh any reverence they may claim to have for freedom.

    It doesn’t mean, however, that they cannot be outvoted or overruled if there are enough people who do value freedom, assuming they value it strongly enough.

  2. On July 5, 2017 at 9:46 am, Longbow said:

    Yeah, but don’t ya still FEEL LIKE its a danger to Law Imposement officers?

    I mean, hell… civilians go carryin’ guns around, you never know what might happen.

    Why don’t these people just submit and comply? Its what free men do!

  3. On July 5, 2017 at 10:46 am, Archer said:

    What do you suppose the over-under is on that “found weapon” belonging to some level of LEO?

  4. On July 5, 2017 at 10:59 am, Al Reasin said:

    The anti gun crowd use the same arguments and yet when they fail, they retain creditably in the media. This fake news reporting has been going on for decades and is getting old, very old.

  5. On July 6, 2017 at 9:19 pm, Ned said:

    Wow, imagine that. Same thing never happened here in Arizona.

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