Do I Really Have To Be A Member Of The Militia?
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 7 months ago
Via David Codrea, this bit of interesting prose.
… by requiring that every member of the militia … must own at least one long gun, one handgun, and 1,000 rounds of ammunition for each, or pay an annual $1,000 tax for failing to do so.
To which David observes, “I do have to wrestle with the coercive nature of that and wonder if things couldn’t be worked out more along the lines of if you don’t help, you don’t get helped.”
Um … hmm …, well, I don’t know. I’d have to think about that some. Not, by the way, that I have a problem being someone member of a militia.
My main point has always been that while I understand (and have no problem with) the invocation of the militia in the 2A, it was the closest thing the founders grabbed at the time. All they needed was one good reason, and that happened to be the one they wrote down at the time. The point wasn’t to write a treatise.
The right of amelioration of tyranny (whether a member of the militia or not), the right of self defense, and the right to feed your family without having to get permission to hunt “the king’s forests,” is God-given, not depending on the constitution, the 2A, or even what the founders wrote or thought.
The constitution is a covenant, an agreement, nothing more, and nothing less. It doesn’t guarantee anything, it isn’t the foundation for anything, and it isn’t the basis document for anything – except the vows that were taken on the part of the government NOT to interfere with God-given rights.
On September 3, 2019 at 8:57 am, revjen45 said:
The People ARE the Militia.
On September 3, 2019 at 11:01 am, Fred said:
TL;DR: My greater point is; don’t be found among the unable when God numbers His men.
-To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
-To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
-To provide and maintain a Navy;
-To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
-To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; [how is this accomplished?]
-“To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;…”
Note that Part is capitalized. I’ve pointed this out before. There are 2 Parts, 1) in service(called forth) and 2) not in service but none the less armed. Which Part are you in?
[Who of and by what manner is this militia at the ready?] As ratified, amending the last, above “clause” and defining the other Part (2) of the militia:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I’m not a lawyer and that’s a good thing because only a lawyer could make this complicated. We, in congress, are either called forth should need prevail, or at rest but none the less well armed. Those are the Parts, as amended.
But, moreover, and at this point who cares what the government of the United States says, it and they in it are wicked adulterous whores of the devil. Here is your “milita” as defined by “case law” by Holy God:
“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”
And when it is not possible? The LORD enjoins all that He commands! What does “Thou shalt not kill” mean, to allow killing with impunity? This is false.
There are a great many verses in the Holy Bible about peace and indeed Christ preached for his followers to be at peace with all men. The question is, when a government or invader has an articulated plan to leave you subjugated regardless of if you are evangelizing for Christ or not, then what? Most bible verses about submission and peace are in the context of persecution of Christians for their evangelizing or just because they are Christian. If it were persecution of Christians for being Christian that’s one thing to which I do say, crucify me in the town square while I shout the glories of the salvation wherewith Christ has made me free. I demanded it! But it’s another thing when your government seeks general gun confiscation or to reduce all men to abject subjugation outside of any belief in God or not? This is not persecution for the glory of Christ Jesus; this is an intent of war upon you.
“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
And, I’m getting pretty tired of the conflation between dying for your faith to the glory of God and willfully allowing yourself and your family to be a victim of a criminal. Paul going to Rome knowing he would die and Peter refusing to be crucified right side up; these died for the LORD that you might hear and believe and be made the sons of God. These men died for evangelizing Christ. I find no account in the Holy Bible or anywhere in antiquity where Christians allowed themselves to get gut stabbed and their purse taken by a common criminal who knew nothing of their faith, or any other such example.
Here is your milita:
“And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tabernacle of the congregation, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying, Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls; from twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.”
All able of attained maturity must be trained and prepared to provide for the defense of Self, Family, Neighbors, Tribe, and Nation. Though not quoting in the prior sentence, as is Genesis 6:9 and in the sixth commandment, the concept here is a greater sense and foundation of the Law of God as to defense and war.
I offer into evidence that if every male able to go forth to war shall be twenty, that those men must have been training from their earliest “attained maturity”. And war back then, as we know, was a nasty thing of hacking men to death or being hacked to death usually to die days later. This takes years of preparation to be able at twenty. Although modern warfare has change much of this, self defense and the ability to defend your family, tribe, and nation still requires much readiness, even from a man’s youth, perhaps especially so.
Those who use the bible to tell Christians they shouldn’t be armed, that they should be weak, pacifist sissies are wrong. And so are they who claim that the bible grants to the State an exclusive monopoly on the use of the sword. What State was Abram fighting on behalf of when Melchizedek blessed him? What State was was Peter fighting on behalf of when he drew out his illegal concealed weapon and cut off the ear of the priests servant? (Right in front of what constituted civil POLICE!!!) Not all of the Holy Bible is written to us, but all of it is written for us. (That last simple sentence is a total refutation of Dispensationalism by the way. The whole counsel of God is ours. And the 10 commandments and moral Laws have NOT been overturned. Christ himself said so. And men have ALWAYS been saved by belief on the LORD and NOT the Law!)
Meekness is not weakness. Study to find yourself approved and preach the whole counsel of God! (I suffer from a lack meekness, I confess.)
My greater point is; don’t be found among the unable when God numbers His men. And the numbering of His men is another scalable concept with many applications, as the Baptists say; that’ll preach. And don’t be found not being about our LORDs work.
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen…But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
Two points, first; I find it unacceptable to allow yourself to be killed by tyrant or thief while there is work to do, and second, if we do as our LORD commands here then the likelihood of death by these is drastically reduced. The Word is a much better sword to wield, than having to a firearm, and may save us from being forced to finally, with great reluctance; to accept the latter as given no other viable choice by those who follow satan.
If you have to kill them you can’t tell them about Jesus, but if you tell them about Jesus they may kill you and this is to the glory of God the Father through Christ Jesus, but far more will marvel at the words of the Holy Bible that you preach and show them and many will be saved, no longer at war with God and you, to be your brothers. Oh that His church DO as He commands. “Go ye…”!
Siting passively once a week in a debt laden building waiting the rapture? Fools!!!!
Go ye, your country is dying and your civilization is at stake!!!