So After Six Months Of Legalized Open Carry In Texas, Is Blood Running In The Streets?

BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 3 months ago

KAGSTV.com:

In the first panicked hours following the ambush on Dallas police officers, the department released a photo of a man carrying a long gun as a person of interest.

But he was the wrong guy—and one who never broke any laws by carrying that gun.

“I also don’t fault Dallas police for immediately listing that person as a person of interest,” said Ray Hunt with the Houston Police Officers Union. “Just like anybody else that had guns on the scene, they would be considered persons of interest. That’s just called clues in police work.”

The worklist for police has gotten longer as more people will be sporting pistols and handguns through the state’s open carry law, which took effect this year. And at any scene, it may require more resources.

“It may take another officer to be there to watch that person to make sure that person is not part of the problem,” Hunt said.

But the Houston Police Officers Union is more concerned about the public.

“The number of people who were gonna be calling, because they’re not used to seeing that,” Hunt said.

So far, it hasn’t seemed too problematic.

Since January, the Houston Police Department says out of the tens of thousands of calls a month, only 62 were weapon related.

And out of those, only 19 were actual open-carry situations.

Considering the shootings we have seen around the country, it’s possible people are hypersensitive to weapons. So for now, police can only hope that dispatchers will determine how serious the threat is.

“If we find out that someone is carrying and they’re allowed to be carrying we are allowed to disarm them during the investigation,” Hunt said. “And then give them their weapon back at the end.”

So I reckon the sky isn’t falling and the bodies aren’t stacking up in the morgue because of open carry.  So much for the hyper-dramatic hysteria by the gun controllers.

But on to something the article said about LEO interactions.  “If we find out that someone is carrying and they’re allowed to be carrying we are allowed to disarm them during the investigation,” Hunt said. “And then give them their weapon back at the end.”

You … have … got … to … be … kidding … me?  Is the Houston police department really doing this?  Seriously?  Previously I had said this about the practice of LEOs unholstering weapons from innocent citizens.

If you’re a LEO and you actually touch another man’s gun in the process of a stop, or you have a partner touch his gun, much less unholster it, “secure” it or anything else you think you are doing to it, let me be as clear as I can be.  You … are … an … idiot.  If your procedures have you doing this, then your procedures were written by idiots.  You can tell them I said so and send them this article.

You have no business risking NDs or taking possession of property that isn’t yours, even temporarily, and especially since you don’t know of modifications that may have been made to the firearm that would make it unfamiliar to you.

Don’t do it.  Just say no.  I wouldn’t walk up and presume to take possession of another man’s gun at a range or while in his home.  You have no business doing that either.  It’s weird, creepy, and unsafe.

It makes no one safer, and it makes everyone less safe.  So in light of this, I have two questions for the Houston PD.

  1. What basis in law gives you the authority to touch another man’s weapon if he isn’t being charged with any crime?
  2. Given that there is a step change downward in safety if you touch another man’s weapon like this, why do your procedures have your officers doing such a stupid thing?

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  1. On July 27, 2016 at 8:34 am, Fred said:

    I agree with you, Mr. Smith and make these additional points.

    “So for now, police can only hope that dispatchers will determine how serious the threat is.”
    – Hope is not SOP. Hope is not critical thinking and analysis skills. Hope is not a plan. Please tell me the PD has skilled employees with solid SOP and the ability to deviate on the fly. How much does that job pay, I got hope pal, lot’s of it, if that’s all that is required I can answer a phone.

    “That’s just called clues in police work.”
    – Right, stick to gathering evidence, not weapons. A gun is not evidence of a crime, it is a gun.

    Americans are always underestimated by our “leaders”. I’m encouraged by the lack of a freak out about open carry. Our “leaders” are so bad at gauging us that while they poke us, spit at us, and throw things, they only think it funnier never suspecting that like a predator in woods, we are measuring them. They won’t even see it coming. Pity that.

  2. On July 27, 2016 at 8:53 am, Douglas Mortimer said:

    Boom, spot on.

  3. On July 28, 2016 at 7:16 am, Haywood Jablome said:

    This is why they have to push everything through FAST after any type of gun incident. They know the facts, and they know they are full of crap. They also know the American public has the attention span of a ferret on crack. Pass it NOW…by the time the rubes know what is in it, they will be on to the next fad….

  4. On July 28, 2016 at 8:29 am, Douglas Mortimer said:

    Like the NY SAFE act. Never let a crisis go to waste…

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