Dean Weingarten has a good find at Ammoland.
Judge Eduardo Ramos, the U.S. District Judge for the Southern District of New York, has issued an Opinion & Order that a ban on stun guns is constitutional. A New York State law prohibits the private possession of stun guns and tasers; a New York City law prohibits the possession and selling of stun guns. Judge Ramos has ruled these laws do not infringe on rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
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I’m the only gun owning liberal in my general friend/acquaintance group and the proposal to drop the $200 stamp for cans has some of them seriously worked up about how Republicans are making mass shootings easier this way, making quietly killing someone more affordable, etc. The usual.
It doesn’t seem to get through that they’re pretty much never used in crimes and that if that was your goal, you’d be far better off just 3D printing/garage building a cheap illegal one. Seriously. There are well over a million cans in this country and they’re involved in like 40+ crimes a year. And I’m not even sure that’s limited to legal ones.
There’s so much bad shit in this bill, but removing a tax on things that are seen as nothing more than safety devices in other countries is not one of them and the fixation on it is really frustrating.
I guess it just reminds me how effectively a huge number of left leaning voters have been lied to about guns and how they work (as well as gun owners, for that matter) and it’s hard to know how to start undoing that damage. How do I effectively explain that I just wanna giggle when my gun goes whump instead of boom sometimes when that thing is clearly built to spec for kid killing?
Here’s the first thing you do. You explain to them that suppressors are safety equipment, as important as any other safety equipment such as hard hats or safety glasses. And if you need to, you cite the relevant parts of the federal code where OSHA is concerned about hearing loss. You explain to them that this has to do with the proper function of the human body.
Next, you don’t use words like giggle. You insist that “shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed.” Period.
Finally, you get yourself a new set of friends. Your friends are controllers and you shouldn’t be around them.
Silencer Central has spent an enormous about of money lobby on behalf of keeping suppressors as NFA items. The members of the house ways and means committee is trying as hard as they can to keep from allowing you to purchase suppressors without telling the FedGod and filling out paperwork.
I predict that unless the full hearing protection act is passed, Rep Smith and Rep Kustoff will hear about it soon enough at election time. I also predict that Silencer Central goes bankrupt for lobbying against the act.
They want us to grovel for crumbs that fall from the master's table like slaves. Silencer Cental has spent an enormous amount of money lobbying them to keep suppressors in the NFA. It's an unrighteous governing and business model. Presumably, Silencer Central sent the…
To all the democrat congresscritters who oppose the hearing protection act, I say, "Blow it out of your ass." And I'm ashamed of the republicans who won't say that to you as well.
David Kustoff is a gun controller and statist. He wants to throw some crumbs your way and hope you’re satisfied.
Suppressors are hearing protection. They're as important as safety glasses or hard hats. But you want us to tell the FedGov about our firearms by registering suppressors. I cannot find words to express how repulsed I am at you.
When you don’t have enough declared enemies, your “allies” suddenly find it convenient to oppose you. Any time liberty is about to be affirmed and expanded, you can count on the republicans to panic.
It really does boggle the imagination how the senate and house can be so stolid, unresponsive, stupid, and lazy. They should have removed suppressors from the NFA long ago.
As for that matter, where is OSHA in all of this? Suppressors are about hearing protection. Given the popularity of hunting and the shooting sports, as well as the former military members who have come home with damaged hearing, you’d think if they cared anything about their profession or the people they’re supposed to serve and protect, they would have already been screaming to congress. As for that matter, the ATF should have already been in front of congress pleading to remove suppressors from the NFA.
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Two amicus briefs came in today on Sanchez v. Bonta, our case challenging California's total ban on suppressors. The first is from National Association for Gun Rights, and the second is from a group of amici including Silencer Shop, Palmetto State Armory, and others. We… pic.twitter.com/kFU44oYqHt
I guess it’s complicated, but according to Mike, it would be a good thing for suppressors to remain under consideration as firearms because then it warrants 2A protection.
I still want to see suppressors off the NFA. For hearing protection. For me. For the children.
A Republican bill filed on Capitol Hill last week would deregulate suppressorsas firearms under both the National Firearms Act and the Gun Control Act.
The Silencers Helping Us Save Hearing, or SHUSH, Act was introduced on Jan. 30 by U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, a Utah Republican, and has four co-sponsors, all from the GOP. The language of the five-page bill deletes all federal regulations– including taxes, fees, and registration requirements– of suppressors. Those who paid a transfer tax for such safety accessories in the two years before the bill’s enactment would get a refund.
“Despite what Hollywood may lead you to believe, silencers aren’t silent, and they aren’t just for secret agents,” said Lee in a statement. “They are a vital tool for hearing protection for countless marksmen and gun enthusiasts across America, and making them prohibitively difficult to obtain is an assault on the 2nd Amendment. The SHUSH Act eliminates federal regulation of silencers and treats them as the non-lethal accessory that they are.”
U.S. Rep. Michael Cloud (R-Texas) will spearhead the bill in the House, where it will join a stack of suppressor reform legislation that includes the Hearing Protection Act.
“Suppressors are a vital tool for responsible gun owners that protect hearing, enhance safety, and reduce firearm noise—but thanks to Hollywood and federal overreach, they’ve been unfairly vilified,” said Cloud. “Law-abiding Americans shouldn’t have to endure months of red tape and pay an additional tax just to access a safety accessory. The SHUSH Act puts an end to this unnecessary bureaucratic red tape, eliminates the federal tax, and prevents state overreach by treating suppressors like any other firearm accessory.”
More than 4 million suppressors are in circulation, a figure that has more than quadrupled in less than a decade.
According to a joint release from Cloud and Lee, the measure has the support of the National Association for Gun Rights, Gun Owners of America, the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
The SHUSH Act in the Senate is filed as S.345 and has been referred to the Committee on Finance.
If I don’t get anything else out of this administration, I want suppressors removed from the NFA.
There is no excuse for not doing this bill and pushing it through quickly. There is no excuse for suppressors to have ever been in the NFA to begin with. This is about hearing protection, something OSHA claims to care about.
Here is a video from Silencer Shop. This sounds like a nice idea, but at the expense of registering it with the ATF, not so much any more. You’re free to disagree. I see that they have designed the suppressors with different choke sizes in mind. That answered the only question I had before watching he video: what does this do to the shot pattern? I do wonder what this does to the weight distribution and balance of the gun though.
I find that using shotguns in particular reduces the need for any sort of suppression of the sound because of the comfort of wearing sound enhancing ear muffs (or electronic ear muffs). They work well with the lower comb of the shotgun and don’t interfere with getting a good cheek weld.
Rifles are a different story. With rifles the stock doesn’t have the same profile, and this is especially true of modern sporting rifles where the stock is along the same axis as the recoil. I find that electronic ear muffs do interfere with my cheek weld. The only option at that point is foam hearing protection for the ear canal.
The upshot of electronic ear muffs for hunting or other shooting sports is that, especially for a person who is somewhat hard of hearing like me, the muffs actually enhance the sound (other than the shot itself). I damaged my hearing by running power equipment for years before we thought about things like hearing protection. I always use hearing protection now. Thus, the last time I went quail hunting I had a regular conversation with someone with muffs on, and yet suffered no hearing damage from the shotgun. The downside of foam hearing protection is that no such conversation can be had.
I am a fairly well rounded engineer, and in addition to studying both mechanical and nuclear engineering, I have studied the physics of sound, including all of the OSHA regulations and the dumbed-down ways they force you to compute reduction in decibels (for example, when double protection is used). OSHA crafts its calculations for the simplest minded health and safety technician to use, not for the engineer.
But those regulations do provide worker protection. And while it can be said that OSHA has no jurisdiction over hearing safety for those other than workers, if the FedGov cared in the least about the health and safety of its citizens, OSHA would be in front of Congress lobbying for removal of suppressors from the NFA. Hearing loss is a human safety issue. There are no two ways about it.
The only conclusion one can reach is that OSHA doesn’t really care about you, any more than the federal government does. Because you engage in hunting and the other shooting sports, they hate you. It’s that simple. If they cared about you, they would have removed suppressors a very long time ago and allowed them to be sold at the local hardware store.
