I would love to have this gun, but they’ve priced me out of the market at just over $4000. I’d also like to have the predecessor to this one, the 686.
Model 686 is no longer in production so it’s becoming increasingly difficult to find them for sale (although some are still out there). They don’t a bit of upgrading and added $2000 to the price for the 694, making it less appealing that owning a model 686.
The comments in the video seem to prefer the 694 over the Browning.
Faster?
Yup. No matter how good the shooter is with a pump. Many big 3-gun matches also have a side match for shotguns. There is usually a low target count, so nobody has to reload. The buzzer goes off and you shoot the targets. No reloading, running, jumping or standing on one leg, and no tricky targets. Just stand there and shoot the shotgun. Pump guns never win. No matter what the guy at the gun shop says, semi-autos are simply faster.
Semi-autos will not shoot all ammo. That was an issue with that bird gun I mentioned and a few others, but not with most guns today. Today’s best semi-automatic shotguns can digest a wide range of ammo from low-recoil to full-power without a problem. Shotguns with the inertia system pioneered by Benelli, or the multi-port gas systems like Remington used in its guns, will handle all ammo. Most of the newer gas guns will likewise eat any ammo they are fed.
Semi-autos jam. They pretty much don’t anymore. At least, no more than other firearms. Pumps do, though. I shoot a pump shotgun a lot. (I never said I don’t like them.) When it counts, I will now and then inadvertently short stroke and jam it up.
It’s not just me. I have seen even the very best pump-shotgun shooters in the world short stroke their guns when trying to go fast. The simple fact is that operating a pump shotgun is a human function. When subjected to stress, humans do not beat well-designed machines, because machines are not subject to emotional stress.
I agree with all of these remarks. I think that a commitment to pump action shotguns over semi-auto shotguns because you believe that semi-auto shotguns are less reliable is based on a false paradigm that may have been correct 50 years ago, but certainly isn’t now.
Specifically, he’s reviewing the latest Savage tactical shotgun, the Renegauge Security. It appears to want to compete with the Beretta 1301. I doubt that it can come up to the level of the 1301, but since Savage didn’t send me one to review, I have no way of knowing with certainty.
It’s a nice looking gun, and maybe I’ll get a chance to shoot one some day.
A federal judge has blocked New York from restricting the carrying of guns on private property under a Democratic-backed law adopted following the U.S. Supreme Court’s June ruling that struck down the state’s strict gun permitting regime.
Tuesday’s ruling by U.S. District Judge John Sinatra in Buffalo struck down a provision in the law that made it a felony for a licensed gun owner to possess a firearm on any private property unless the property owner allowed it with a sign or by giving express consent.
From the decision.
Property owners indeed have the right to exclude. But the state may not unilaterally exercise that that right …
We believe in property rights, even against the state. That certainly includes property owners who do not wish for you to bear arms on their property. But you see what NY did there, yes? They exercised that right on behalf of property owners. In other words, they didn’t respect the rights of property owners to make the decision on their own property.
What NY did runs exactly counter to the notion of property rights, and thus the judge reached the right decision.
It always happens. When the small Green Beret team was ambushed in Niger, Maj. General Bob Scales escalated his whining about the M4, demanding that it be replaced with a piston AR (a point completely irrelevant to anything that happened in the engagement). The engagement was poorly planned, ill-conceived, and undermanned. There was no QRF anywhere near them, the team was too small, they had no light or medium MGs (and certainly no heavy MGs), and I could go on with the failures.
But it’s the gun. It’s always the gun. It’s never the stupid Colonels and Generals who plan the missions. It’s always the gun. True to form, the reason they fielded the Sig XM5 was to bring battlefield superiority against – wait for it – the PKM. It’s never the planners who put FOBs in the valleys between mountains and waste time even doing that, allowing the enemy to mass forces and field fighters that outnumber our troops by ten to one. It’s the gun. It’s always the gun.
No battle rifle can compete with a crew-served, belt-fed medium MG. There are always answers to medium MGs, such as: taking the high ground, overwatch, QRF, CAS, using our own medium and heavy MGs, and maybe re-introducing a role for the long-forgotten grenadier (the M203 is not a sufficient replacement for the M79 in terms of range). These things mean rethinking doctrine, weapons systems, TTPs, and training. But they don’t want to do that – it’s always the gun.
If you want somewhat increased penetration and distance with the AR platform, I’ve already told you what to do. Switch uppers to the 6mm ARC. It’s a simple change, and would be the cheapest and most effective remedy for what is currently really a very small problem. And in-between remedy for this would be to return the 20″ barrel Eugene Stoner originally designed.
But for whatever reason I cannot fathom, the U.S. Army has some sort of sordid love affair with Sig. And for whatever reason I cannot understand (unless someone has pictures on active generals in the DoD complex), they always need a new rifle. So here it is, all 13 lb of it.
This is yet another interesting video from Target Suite.
I do have a personal interest in this issue. I was previously wondering if having a Marlin Model 336 30-30 and Marlin Model 336 in 35 Remington is redundant. I also stumbled across this article in American Hunter magazine.
Which is the more useful cartridge? Of the two, which serves the hunter better? Traditionally, the tubular magazines of the popular lever-rifles restricted the cartridges to using round or flat-point bullets, to avoid the possibility of magazine detonation, should a pointed spitzer bullet hit the primer of the cartridge ahead of it in the magazine. The exception to that rule is Hornady’s LeveRevolution ammo line, which uses a pliable tip on a spitzer bullet to afford a much flatter trajectory in both cartridges. With the traditional loads, the .30-30 will drive its 150- and 170-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 2400 and 2250 fps respectively, while the .35 Remington launches its 180- and 200-grain bullets at 2100 and 2080 fps. Both generate between 1,800 and 1,900 ft.-lbs. of muzzle energy with traditional loads, and the hot-rod LeveRevolution will certainly offer an improvement in ballistic figures, but the advancements are parallel between the two cartridges.
I did find it a bit amusing at about the 6:20 mark. He should have left the stated value of 35% alone without “correction” in the video. Comparison of areas would be done by the square of the radius: (0.358)^2 / (0.308)^2 ≈ 1.35.
Please weigh in with comments. Do readers have a preference for 35 Remington over the 30-30, or vice versa, or none at all? Then again, fine gentlemen of find upbringing have fine weapons, and there shouldn’t be a problem with a collection where both calibers are a part of it.
Our buddy Andy at Practical Accuracy has some real world data for you. I think the case is closed, at least for me.
One corollary point is that the only real expert is you after shooting thousands of rounds down range. Use your own gun, your own tuning, your ammunition, your eyesight, and your optics, and spend time at the range. There are no two pieces of equipment exactly alike.
50-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Nosler’s 50-grain Ballistic Tip is ideal for varmints and predators up to coyote size. Delivering around 10 inches of penetration, it’s even a good choice for tactical applications if intermediate barriers are not an issue. Federal loads the 55-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip in its Tactical Law Enforcement TRU line. This bullet creates massive, but moderately shallow, tissue destruction, ideal for vermin and self-defense applications. Hodgdon lists a maximum load of 28.5 grains of CFE 223 for a 50-grain bullet with a velocity of 3,500 fps. Nosler, however, lists a 29.0-grain maximum load at 3,379 fps. (This goes to show you that data from different sources do not always agree.)
60-grain Nosler Partition This is an excellent bullet for deer and feral hogs, and from a tactical standpoint it performs very well because of its ability to defeat intermediate barriers. In 10-percent ordnance gelatin or Clear Ballistics, you can expect 20 inches of penetration with the bullet’s deformed frontal diameter measuring almost .4 inch. Hodgdon’s maximum recommended charge of 26.7 grains of CFE 223 pushed this bullet to 3,100 fps out of my 22-inch barrel. Precision was not on par with the 50-grain Ballistic Tip, but a five-group average of 1.1 inches is totally sufficient for a load I intend to use inside 200 yards. This bullet does not have a reputation for delivering extreme precision.
70-grain Nosler AccuBond I’ve killed more big-game animals with AccuBonds than any other bullet, mostly because they deliver an ideal balance of penetration and tissue damage. They also only need to impact at about 1,800 fps for measurable bullet upset. Nosler is the only company offering a factory 70-grain AccuBond load for the .223 Rem., but it can be hard to find. In its latest load manual, Nosler does not list CFE 223 for bullets between 70 and 85 grains, but Hodgdon lists a maximum load of 24.7 grains. With this bullet’s BC of .37, it’s still traveling 2,000 fps at 300 yards. This, combined with the precision it delivered, makes it an ideal multi-purpose load. In tactical applications, the bonding helps with intermediate barriers, and you can expect 17 inches of penetration.
Nosler 77-grain Custom Competition Because of its light recoil, ringing steel and punching paper are joyous pursuits with the .223 Rem. For that you need a bullet that’s accurate and will fly reasonably flat. Nosler offers a factory load for the .223 Rem. that uses its 77-grain Custom Competition bullet, but it retails for more than $40 per box of 20. It’s advertised at 2,600 fps, and with Hodgdon’s maximum load of 24.3 grains I got 2,680 fps out of my rifle.
“America’s Rifle” isn’t just modular and easy to shoot and maintain. It’s customizable with ammunition too. I don’t hand load but I’ve found that just about any bullet type he discusses can be found either at your local store or over an Ammoseek search. You can find what you want based on your perceived needs.
What I wish they would do now is work on varying the loads and bullet types for the 6mm ARC. At the moment, Hornady seems to have a lock on that cartridge. I’d like to see Federal and Nosler get into the game.
It’s a well-deserved and fitting end. The board could never disconnect themselves from being Wayne LaPierre sycophants.
Moreover, the NRA always behaved as if its members should act like dogs eating crumbs that fall from the master’s table. They supported the NFA, the GCA, the Hughes Amendment, the AWB, the bump stock ban, red flag laws, and just about everything that infringes on the rights of free men.
I appreciate his down-to-earth approach to giving us his opinions.
Concerning the Henry rifle, it would have been much more impressive for Henry Repeating Arms to have fixed the problem to begin with rather than have a mechanic tell him everything is fine, only to have to respond later like they should after he posted a video of the problems. They didn’t like the bad review – but they should have disliked having a dissatisfied customer much more.
As for the accuracy, I’m glad to see acceptable performance. I had read and heard unfavorable reviews.
Equally large were gun voters’ judicial victories, where we made a clean sweep of NC Supreme Court and NC Court of Appeals races. Thanks to victories by strong constitutional conservatives Richard Dietz and Trey Allen, Republicans will now control the NC Supreme Court by a 5-2 margin – something that will serve North Carolinians well as we continue to struggle over redistricting and our as-yet-unimplemented voter ID law.
Congressional Races
Despite having a partisan, Democrat-led NC Supreme Court throw out and essentially redraw congressional districts, we were still able to send Chuck Edwards to the U.S. House in District 11. Edwards is a strong Second Amendment advocate who has been of considerable service to gun rights supporters in the General Assembly.
NC General Assembly (NCGA) Races
In unofficial results, it appears that gun voters achieved a super-majority in the NC Senate, with 30 seats, and 71 seats in the NC House, just one seat shy of a supermajority. Here too GRNC-PVF was highly successful, winning in 8 of 10 targeted Senate races and 10 of 16 targeted House races.
Well then, it’s time to get busy. So now when another shooting happens, I don’t expect the GOP led Congress to buckle. I expect the concealed handgun permitting process and the requirement to get CLEO approval of handgun purchase permits to be trashed by state law and replaced with constitutional purchase and carry. I don’t expect the courts to roll over when anyone tries to send them gerrymandered redistricting plans. I expect the GOP to vote pro-2A as a complete bloc rather than being splintered off. I don’t expect open carry to be messed with or rescinded.
Is this too much to ask? If so, we can be about our job of replacing you just like we’re going to replace that awful governor.
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