More Afghanistan Misadventure
BY Herschel SmithBagram Air Base evacuated. Without even informing the ANA about their departure, likely because some of the ANA would have shot at them. In those pictures I saw heavy equipment which doubtless cost a lot of money.
Well, I guess KBR made a fortune on its construction.
More than 1,000 Afghan soldiers have fled to neighbouring Tajikistan after clashing with Taliban militants, officials have said.
The troops retreated over the border to “save their own lives”, according to a statement by Tajikistan’s border guard.
Violence has risen in Afghanistan, with the Taliban launching attacks and taking more territory in recent weeks.
The surge coincides with the end of Nato’s 20-year military mission in the country.
The vast majority of remaining foreign forces in Afghanistan have been withdrawn ahead of a September deadline, and there are concerns that the Afghan military will collapse.
And collapse they will.
How sad. It would have been possible to put the Marines and Rangers on the border with Pakistan to prevent the hardened fighters from escaping, kill off those who gave aid and comfort to AQ, and then put General Dostum in charge of the country to kill any additional Taliban – as he surely would have done.
But we wanted to play armed social workers. Many perished from this misadventure, still others came home without legs, arms or eyesight.
Never, never, never sign on as an ally of the U.S., or let them tell you they will make things better.
It’s like doing a background check on new renters, ask around first.
William Lind, the great historian and military affairs analyst, has said in so many words that those who form alliances with occupying armies do so at their peril, since occupying armies eventually go home.
The hill people of Vietnam, the Montagniards, learned this truth the hard way when the U.S. came out with ‘Vietnamization’ of the war effort, bureaucrat-speak for transferring the burden of the war off U.S. shoulders and onto South Vietnamese ones.
Just as our so-called ‘Afghan allies’ have learned the same hard truth. That is, if any of them were genuinely allies in the first place. Remember: Islamic doctrine councils the forming of fake alliances and false truces when it suits Islamic purposes. Such agreements and treaties can be broken at any time by a Muslim, with the approval of their prophet.
If Afghanistan is the “graveyard of empires”, look for the FUSA to be laid to rest very shortly in that forsaken dirt bed of history. Just remember what happened to the former USSR after withdrawing in 1989. It collapsed a little over two years later, at least on the surface. Then came the real trouble.
Georgiaboy 61: Fill us in on what transpired in the former USSR & the Eastern Block nations after the collapse of communism. Expect much of this to happen in the FUSA, especially what occurred in Yugoslavia as many have been predicting recently. Many thanks for your outstanding commentaries & knowledge of military history.
The US military has forgotten how to retreat. They did not destroy anything that could be used by the enemy. They did not booby trap anything.
No demolition at all. Many things could have been done but weren’t.
No more wars? TPTB won’t allow that for long. I wonder where they will choose to strike next?
Maybe the “Elites” think that they will need all available troops for the coming hot war with the “White Supremacists? Or is it “White Insurrectionists”? Or “White Supremacist Insurrectionists”?
Well, the important thing is it will be White.
The US already collapsed. What you see is the mirage of debt based inflationary money printing. It’s an illusion, a vapour. A “service economy” in the first place is economicly destructive as it merely measures the volocity of money and doesn’t create wealth.
I would expect the dot mil to be fully turned against the American people in training and propoganda, a process that has been well underway for decades.
We didn’t get any ROI on the $21 trillion?
Democracy, comrade.
The super duper MIL is going to go domestic?
The pampered pretty pink Petraeus wannabes at the Pentagram couldn’t win at toy soldiers.
Having a Vietnam flashback here, hundreds of helicopters, artillery, rifles, millions of rounds of all types of ammo, Tan San Nhut air base, with it’s first class runways and hardened hangers, port facilities, trucks, warehouses, roads, bridges, the list was mind boggling. And we went for the whole thing again, in Afghanistan. With the same results. No wonder the communists are so confident.
It has occurred to me that TPTB wants more soldier bodies here in the FUSA than they want in their trillion dollar playground. Meanwhile, there’s “leaked” information that the DOD is going to make everyone in the military take the vax.
“It would have been possible to put the Marines and Rangers on the border with Pakistan to prevent the hardened fighters from escaping…”
No, it would not have been possible. The Taliban are merely the militia of 40 million Pashtuns living on both sides of the border. Defeating the Pashtuns is no more possible than defeating the Vietnamese communists was. Both wars were delusional from the outset.
But the lunatics who run this country might still have a go at Venezuela, Iran, Ukraine, North Korea… There are still plenty of places to waste American lives and treasure.
@Bob,
Yes it would have. I didn’t say kill all the Pashtuns. I said kill all of the protectors of AQ, and no, all of the goat herders in Afghanistan weren’t protectors of AQ. My point is that it should have been quick in and out, and it could have been. The goal should never have been to remake the “country,” it should have been a quick retaliation.
And if they did it again, retaliate again, quickly. In and out.
@ The Old Freedom Fighter Re: “Fill us in on what transpired in the former USSR & the Eastern Block nations after the collapse of communism. Expect much of this to happen in the FUSA, especially what occurred in Yugoslavia as many have been predicting recently.” Thank-you for the kind words, as they say in Texas I’d better go get a bigger hat. Happy to help in any way possible. Unfortunately, vis-a-vis your question, I am not a specialist in that area, but I can offer a few observations and tid-bits of information, for what they are worth. So, in no particular order… An interesting phenomenon observed by historians and political scientists over the last half century or so concerns the effect of global communications and international travel – our world getting more-networked and smaller, if you will. Many futurists have predicted that as the world grew smaller and the barriers to communication, travel and commerce were reduced or outright eliminated, the barriers of ethnicity, nationalism, and so forth would come down as well. People would tend to disaggregate themselves and become more international in character. That was the thinking. In fact, the opposite has happened. As globalism and its effects have been felt, these have intensified all-the-more the feelings of ordinary people to identify with their ancestry, home and place they call home. La Patrie as the French say. In Spain, the Basques have intensified their drive for their own homeland. In Canada, the separatists in Quebec; in Scotland, Scots who wish to break free of Great Britain, and so on. As it turns out, modern man wants to belong to something and somewhere just as badly as his ancestors did. He still wants a place to call home where he can be amongst his own kind, a place to plant the flag, if you will. Paradoxically, the globalist ruling class, the jet-setting types who fly to Davos every year and who express their net worth with large numbers with lots of commas – they have become more international in their focus, not less. The same is true of many of the largest Fortune 500 firms. General Motors may be an American auto maker in terms of where it was founded, but a great deal of its market share now lies in places outside of the U.S. like the PRC, which is why their executives sound like internationalists at the UN and not Americans like the people who ran the company in 1955. A second observation is that Balkanization needn’t be an inevitably violent or chaotic process. If the political will, wisdom and temperance of mind are there on both sides, separation can be peaceful. The now-famous “Velvet Revolution” – the amicable divorce between Slovakia and the Czech Republic which broke up the former Czechoslovakia, is one well-known example of that. If, on the other hand, there are simmering animosities on all sides, and the desire to separate peacefully isn’t there to any great extent, then that portends badly… Read more »
@ Sean
Re: “Having a Vietnam flashback here, hundreds of helicopters, artillery, rifles, millions of rounds of all types of ammo, Tan San Nhut air base, with it’s first class runways and hardened hangers, port facilities, trucks, warehouses, roads, bridges, the list was mind boggling.”
The manner in which the U.S. government repeated this abandonment of such a huge stockpile of equipment, gear, weapons, ammo, and who knows what else, compels one to ask if there isn’t something else going on. I’m sure if you raised such an objection, the official answer would be that it was/is too-costly to air/sea-lift all of our war material back to CONUS, but I can’t help but wonder, especially in the case of the Muslims over in the ‘Stan and Iraq, if it wasn’t thinly-veiled “welfare” of a sort. You know: “We’re leaving, but wink, wink, you guys can have this stuff when we’re gone….”
Back in the day, the engineers would have been put to work doing demolitions on everything/anything in sight of potential value to the enemy. Why? Because you don’t Hajji turning those 155mm howitzers upon you and dropping a barrage of shells upon you paid for by the U.S. taxpayer, that’s why. Maybe we’re not even that smart anymore….
Spent most of 2008 in Kabul. Had a lot of fun, though never understood exactly what the end game was supposed to be.
Somehow I doubt that there was a PowerPoint titled “Slinking Away in the Night Like an Abused Dog.”
That said, the US was there twenty years too long. Should have studied the three British Afghan Wars, and the Soviet Afghan War before deciding on this folly.
That got a hardy laugh. Thanks.