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Drake
6 years ago
Never got more than 27 or 28 rounds into the mags I was issued in the early 90’s.
Bill Sullivan
6 years ago
My dad was sent in as a replacement Marine rifleman on Okinawa in 1945. He heard all the shooting, so on his first patrol started out with a full rifle (8 rounds), a cartridge belt of 80 rounds, and two bandoliers of 80 rounds each. Total of 248 rounds of .30-06, plus helmet, bayonet, couple of canteens, etc. He couldn’t keep up. The sergeant threw everything away- asked him if he thought he was going to kill that many Japs in one day. He put two spare clips in my dad’s pocket, and told him to pretend they were going hunting. So he went into combat with 24 rounds. It was enough for the day.
Thomas Madere
6 years ago
I believe that is a problem with issue aluminum mag but not Pmags.
Ron Milliken
6 years ago
Bill
The focus in 1945 was still that every Marine was a rifleman.
Not “spray & pray” like today.
Still, I’d have preferred more than 24 rds, preferably the 88.
Fred
6 years ago
Now that’s a good reason to load 29. The “it hurts your mag lips and springs” is not a great reason. YMMV.
John
6 years ago
In the early 70’s: I remember in Basic Training at Ft. Leanord Wood that the first thing we were taught about loading the 20 round M16 mags was only load 18. More would cause jams.
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Herschel Smith
6 years ago
@John,
Chris Costa does a little better job in my opinion on this.
I’ve heard these stories for a long time. But I’ve never had a problem with jams, FTF or FTE
with my 8, 10, 12, or 15 round magazines. I did have it happen once with an FN FiveseveN but I think it was a bad pistol. I load all my magazines to capacity and keep one in the chamber.
I’ve never had a problem as he described but I confess I haven’t done a tactical reload on an AR very often. It is NOT a problem on my pistols and I have done this in tactical simulations.
This article is filed under the category(s) AR-15s and was published March 3rd, 2020 by Herschel Smith.
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Never got more than 27 or 28 rounds into the mags I was issued in the early 90’s.
My dad was sent in as a replacement Marine rifleman on Okinawa in 1945. He heard all the shooting, so on his first patrol started out with a full rifle (8 rounds), a cartridge belt of 80 rounds, and two bandoliers of 80 rounds each. Total of 248 rounds of .30-06, plus helmet, bayonet, couple of canteens, etc. He couldn’t keep up. The sergeant threw everything away- asked him if he thought he was going to kill that many Japs in one day. He put two spare clips in my dad’s pocket, and told him to pretend they were going hunting. So he went into combat with 24 rounds. It was enough for the day.
I believe that is a problem with issue aluminum mag but not Pmags.
Bill
The focus in 1945 was still that every Marine was a rifleman.
Not “spray & pray” like today.
Still, I’d have preferred more than 24 rds, preferably the 88.
Now that’s a good reason to load 29. The “it hurts your mag lips and springs” is not a great reason. YMMV.
In the early 70’s: I remember in Basic Training at Ft. Leanord Wood that the first thing we were taught about loading the 20 round M16 mags was only load 18. More would cause jams.
@John,
Chris Costa does a little better job in my opinion on this.
https://www.captainsjournal.com/2020/03/04/chris-costa-on-tactical-reloads/
I’ve heard these stories for a long time. But I’ve never had a problem with jams, FTF or FTE
with my 8, 10, 12, or 15 round magazines. I did have it happen once with an FN FiveseveN but I think it was a bad pistol. I load all my magazines to capacity and keep one in the chamber.
I’ve never had a problem as he described but I confess I haven’t done a tactical reload on an AR very often. It is NOT a problem on my pistols and I have done this in tactical simulations.