Comments on: Iran and Taliban Missiles http://www.captainsjournal.com/2009/04/30/iran-and-taliban-missiles/ News & Commentary on Warfare, Policy and Counterterrorism Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:59:08 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » One Critic’s Review of ‘Roxana: A True Story’ http://www.captainsjournal.com/2009/04/30/iran-and-taliban-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27557 Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » One Critic’s Review of ‘Roxana: A True Story’ Wed, 13 May 2009 15:16:55 +0000 http://www.captainsjournal.com/?p=2799#comment-27557 [...] soldiers. No Hope For Change with Obama on that score either, it would seem. Or with Iran’s supplying the Taliban with [...] [...] soldiers. No Hope For Change with Obama on that score either, it would seem. Or with Iran’s supplying the Taliban with [...]

]]> By: rrk3 http://www.captainsjournal.com/2009/04/30/iran-and-taliban-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27479 rrk3 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:25:22 +0000 http://www.captainsjournal.com/?p=2799#comment-27479 The Weapons being loaded into the trucks were KPV 14.5mm machine guns. I have read that the Taliban are offering good money to Afghans that may have one stashed. We have destroyed at least two trucks carrying these weapons. The KPV (Krubnokalibernyj Pulemet Vladimirova – Vladimirov large calibre / heavy machine gun) was born during WW2 from numerous requests from the Soviet fighting troops, who wanted a heavy MG firing the extra-powerful 14.5x114 armor-piercing ammunition developed for anti-tank rifles. Later on, its ‘tank’ version was used as the primary armament of some armored reconnaissance and personnel carrier vehicles such as BRDM and BTR-70. In the AA role, KPV guns saw considerable action in the hands of the North Vietnamese armed forces, supplied from the USSR and China as military aid (China has produced copies of KPV as 14,5mm Type 56 heavy machine gun). Later on, AA mounts with KPVT guns were used by the Soviet Army in Afghanistan, to fire up at Mujaheddin hiding in the mountains and firing at Soviet bases and convoys from above. The KPV entered mass production in about 1950, in infantry (ground-fire only) version with a wheeled mount designed by Kharykin, and in a number of dedicated AA mounts; single, twin and quadruple. In the 1955 the heavy Kharykin mount was replaced in production by a lighter tripod designed by Baryshev. Guns produced prior to 1955 retained their wheeled mounts and both version saw significant use during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The infantry version of this gun had a relatively short production life, being replaced by the improved KPVT (tank) version, which is used for both armored vehicles and dedicated AA mounts, as well as in naval mounts for light patrol vessels. The 14.5 can shred any of the the transport helicopters in theater, the Apache is armored to defend against this round. The KPV is also an effective anti-personal weapon that can out range the M2 .50 cal and offers better AP capabilities as well. The SA-7 really sucks as an anti air weapon but the Afghans learned to shoot them at truck engines to some effect. But like anything can get lucky. The SA-14 on the other had is about the same as the old U.S. Red-Eye system. It has been replaced the SA-18 in Russian service While U.S. aircraft are equipped with counter-measures to survive in high threat environment. We have to remember the lesson of Vietnam when conducting helicopter operations that a large volume of Machine Gun fire and RPGs can bring down helicoptors. Not a good development but I don't think it is anything that cannot be countered. What we need to watch for is the presence of 23mm cannons. These however are very heavy but would pose a huge threat to helicoptors and aircraft alike. The Weapons being loaded into the trucks were KPV 14.5mm machine guns. I have read that the Taliban are offering good money to Afghans that may have one stashed. We have destroyed at least two trucks carrying these weapons.
The KPV (Krubnokalibernyj Pulemet Vladimirova – Vladimirov large calibre / heavy machine gun) was born during WW2 from numerous requests from the Soviet fighting troops, who wanted a heavy MG firing the extra-powerful 14.5×114 armor-piercing ammunition developed for anti-tank rifles. Later on, its ‘tank’ version was used as the primary armament of some armored reconnaissance and personnel carrier vehicles such as BRDM and BTR-70. In the AA role, KPV guns saw considerable action in the hands of the North Vietnamese armed forces, supplied from the USSR and China as military aid (China has produced copies of KPV as 14,5mm Type 56 heavy machine gun). Later on, AA mounts with KPVT guns were used by the Soviet Army in Afghanistan, to fire up at Mujaheddin hiding in the mountains and firing at Soviet bases and convoys from above.
The KPV entered mass production in about 1950, in infantry (ground-fire only) version with a wheeled mount designed by Kharykin, and in a number of dedicated AA mounts; single, twin and quadruple. In the 1955 the heavy Kharykin mount was replaced in production by a lighter tripod designed by Baryshev. Guns produced prior to 1955 retained their wheeled mounts and both version saw significant use during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The infantry version of this gun had a relatively short production life, being replaced by the improved KPVT (tank) version, which is used for both armored vehicles and dedicated AA mounts, as well as in naval mounts for light patrol vessels.

The 14.5 can shred any of the the transport helicopters in theater, the Apache is armored to defend against this round. The KPV is also an effective anti-personal weapon that can out range the M2 .50 cal and offers better AP capabilities as well.
The SA-7 really sucks as an anti air weapon but the Afghans learned to shoot them at truck engines to some effect. But like anything can get lucky.
The SA-14 on the other had is about the same as the old U.S. Red-Eye system. It has been replaced the SA-18 in Russian service

While U.S. aircraft are equipped with counter-measures to survive in high threat environment. We have to remember the lesson of Vietnam when conducting helicopter operations that a large volume of Machine Gun fire and RPGs can bring down helicoptors.

Not a good development but I don’t think it is anything that cannot be countered. What we need to watch for is the presence of 23mm cannons. These however are very heavy but would pose a huge threat to helicoptors and aircraft alike.

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