How Fast Can NATO Surrender to the Taliban?

BY Herschel Smith
8 years, 1 month ago

In a little known and poorly publicized report on the Danish part of the NATO effort in Afghanistan, they have begun to negotiate with the Taliban on their own.

Danish soldiers in Afghanistan have begun negotiating with the Taliban to try to break the deadlock there, a newspaper reported Monday, as a poll suggested most Danes considered the war unwinnable.

Troops had been holding talks with the Taliban as wiping out the insurgency was proving so difficult, a Danish officer told the Jyllands-Posten daily.

“We have already held several meetings with local chiefs where the Taliban were represented,” Lieutenant Colonel Bjarne Hoejgaard told the paper after a six-month mission in Afghanistan.

“We cannot get around it. We must intensify the dialogue and the negotiations with the Taliban if we want to have peace in Afghanistan, because we cannot eliminate the enemy,” he said.

This report was also picked up by the Globe and Mail.  Oh, and Hamid Karzai saw it as well.  The report apparently got his panties in a wad, because he responded that only the “government” in Kabul would be allowed to surrender to, um, negotiate with the Taliban.

Talks with Taliban insurgents must only take place through Afghan government channels, President Hamid Karzai’s office warned Tuesday after reports surfaced of dialogue led by Danish soldiers.

Presidential spokesman Homayun Hamidzada told reporters he was unaware of a report in a newspaper, which cited a Danish officer saying that Taliban were represented at soldiers’ talks with local chiefs.

“We must intensify the dialogue and the negotiations with the Taliban if we want to have peace in Afghanistan, because we cannot eliminate the enemy,” the lieutenant colonel was quoted as saying on Monday after a six-month mission.

Asked about the report, Hamidzada said he had not seen it.

“But the policy of the Afghanistan government is, any talks or dialogue should take place through government, not by the friendly countries who have a presence in Afghanistan,” he said.

Remember, Karzai is the one who said directly to Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar ‘My brother, my dear, come back to your homeland. Come back and work for peace, for the good of the Afghan people. Stop this business of brothers killing brothers’.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has recently said that the NATO effort must be expanded in Afghanistan, and that this effort must not be seen as an “American” war.  But with such attitudes among the NATO “warriors” who serve there, it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which it won’t become America’s campaign, good or bad.

Prior: Petraeus on Pursuing the Enemy

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rykehaven
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CJ said: “In a little known and poorly publicized report on the Danish part of the NATO effort in Afghanistan, they have begun to negotiate with the Taliban on their own.” If true, I think this’s what you call “formalizing the obvious, long-standing reality on the ground”. CJ said: “Oh, and Hamid Karzai saw it as well.” Going through the motions of faux outrage and inevitable resignation… I’m not sorry for Karzai after he followed the British lead in expelling the Marines, embarrassing the 26th and other elements. It was an unnecessary pot-shot but he played political opportunist even though he had little to do with the decision. If he fought the British, he might not have been able to prevent the Marine’s departure, not to mention sending back the overall Afghan “surge” (I hate that word) by a full year, forcing it to enter the Obama years with all the setbacks we now have in P and K’stan. But at least we’d know that he had the long-term foresight of his “country’s” survival in mind rather than the typical myopic tribal leader who couldn’t see past his own political viability. And one other “un-important” detail: it would have meant… Read more »
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CJ said: “I’m up with you right until you discuss Marines and the 26th. The 26th MEU wasn’t there, the 24th MEU was.” Negative. I’m not talking about the 24th MEU that took Garmser last Spring in 2008. I’m talking about the elements of the 26th MEU that got kicked out after committing so-called “atrocities” in a Taliban ambush in 2006. A buddy in Cedar Point mentioned that the unit leaders were canned after being told that they should have withdrawn rather than direct fire; the real issue, of course, was CYA leadership in Afghanistan. The way he described it, it was not simply a matter of ROE interpretation BS; it was a matter of aggressive tactics – it was the attitude, whether the commanders would back them up under fire or hang them out to dry, stuff like that. CJ said: “And Karzai has never “forced” Marines out. The 24th did their full 7 month deployment. I am also not aware of him having “forced out” any other troops, including the Brits.” Read the paragraph again: I never said Karzai expelled the Marines or the British. I said that the BRITISH led the way in expelling the Marines and… Read more »
rykehaven
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CJ said: “YES! Good Lord, I had forgotten about the lectures in 2006. How could I?” I’m sure those lectures were recurrent in 2006 and beyond too; yes, they’re beyond famous though I’ve never suffered through one. Actually, I was talking about an e-mail sent to me last year 2008 regarding the 24th MEU. It was written by a British journalist I think and the officers were quite clearly lecturing the 24th Marines that “nobody has killed more terrorists in Afghanistan” than they had. The journalist himself was taken aback by the boasting. CJ said: “As for the Brits, I have said before that the enlisted man is as good as any, but up the chain of command it gets bad (at what rank this starts, I don’t know). Their views are too shaped by the so-called COIN experiences in Northern Ireland. Thus, Basra.” I’ve never heard of US enlisted men eagerly converging on a media correspondent for the seemingly sole purpose of ripping into US servicemen. As I’ve said before, talking to media journalists and giving them ammunition against other servicemen is a faux pas in the US military but apparently not the British military. I’ll have to say… Read more »
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